nicdex 🇨🇦 🇺🇦Dec 24, 2022

#techhub defederation notice

All #birdsite instances. Birdsite is a ActivityPub compatible software that allow mastodonians to follow "twits" on Twitter. In short it re-post tweets on #mastodon.

Here's my reasoning for blocking:
1) it's confusing, we've receiced a couple of report saying these accounts are impersonating someone when in fact it's re-post from twitter original account
2) most of us left #twitter for good, not wanting to go back. Seeing tweets reposted here is defeating that.
3) most importantly these birdsite instances don't have either Twitter or the tweet's poster permission to re-post on Mastodon.

Let me know if you disagree I would be open to let one of them muted instead of blocked.

Show threadAhmad 🇪🇬🇵🇸Dec 24, 2022

@nicdex I personally disagree with this decision, the birdsite still has few cool and informative accounts which I wouldn’t like getting disconnected from.
Also, you don’t Twitter nor the ‘tweeter?’ permission to copy their tweets anywhere, these tweets are posted to the public and intended to be seen by everyone.
Those who have problems with these Mastodon instances could simply block them by themselves ‘maybe provide them with the a list?’; if possible, you could do an instance wide poll to see what would the users prefer.

Thank you for being transparent.

Show threadnicdex 🇨🇦 🇺🇦Dec 24, 2022

@Dislocate6281 I am not lawyer, but I think the "it's posted public so I can do what I want with it" is not a real thing. In some cases copyright could still apply. Also in this case it's not simply "everyone can read it", but I am re-posting it on another platform, which is completely different. The notion of redistribution comes into play, thus the potential risk with material that could constitute copyright.

Again I'm no lawyer, but that's the interpretation I am making of what I read on copyright law in the digital age.

Show threadAtz
@nicdex @Dislocate6281 ah, yeah I made the same "they're public" mistake as well. They're not - they're publicly available which is not the same. Twitter is granted a licence to use the content, techhub is not...
Dec 24, 2022 at 5:17pmWeb
Show threadAhmad 🇪🇬🇵🇸Dec 24, 2022

@atzanteol @nicdex I’m not a lawyer too, but after a simple Brave search, I came across [this answer https://law.stackexchange.com/a/27602 showing that 🐦️ states in their TOS that users’ agree to making their tweets ‘available to …. or individuals for the syndication, broadcast, distribution, promotion or publication of such Content on other media and services’.

Also, don’t forget that these tweets aren’t hosted on techhub’s & even most of the instances which host these tweets give credit to the ops

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