Sunny Moraine

It’s really interesting to me the degree to which some people on here just sorta… don’t seem to know how most creatives operate online.

Seen multiple people assuming that if an account does promotion that might/must be ALL it does, which is like… Sure, that happens, but there’s generally a broad consensus that that behavior is a no-no and won’t attract people to what you’re doing. People like that tend to get shunned.

Dec 20, 2022 at 2:24pmWeb
Show threadSunny MoraineDec 20, 2022

And also this weird confusion between capitalism and commerce, which are related but not interchangeable, and a refusal to make a distinction between a corporation advertising a product and a small time creator trying to get the word out about something they made with care and real passion.

It’s like… I feel like we aren’t the ones who have been brainwashed a bit by capitalism here? “Brainwashed” isn’t a great term but I haven’t yet had coffee and nothing else is coming to me.

Show threadSunny MoraineDec 20, 2022

Part of breaking away from a capitalist system is reclaiming concepts and practices that capitalism would have you believe can’t be separated from it, like small artisans making and selling goods themselves.

Whether or not commerce can or should exist under socialism is a whole other lengthy conversation that I’m not remotely equipped to have but let’s think a little bigger here, at least.

Show threadSunny MoraineDec 20, 2022

Plus? The book I’ve got coming out in early 2024? I worked hard on it (still working on it as editing deadlines loom ominously in the background). I’m proud of it. I want people to read it. Why shouldn’t I talk a bunch about it and tell people where to buy it, and ask them to spread the word about it? What’s wrong with that?

AHA ONCE MORE THIS THREAD WAS ABOUT PROMOTING MYSELF ALL ALONG, I TRICKED YOU AGAIN *smokebomb*

Show threadDarkodemonDec 20, 2022
@dynamicsymmetry
Omg how dare you promote a small creator like yourself that's heresy lol. As far as I can say, you do you and don't let anyone give you crap
Show threadRowena42Dec 20, 2022
@dynamicsymmetry
*spreads smoke and promotion as far and wide as possible*
Show threadAstridDec 20, 2022
@dynamicsymmetry Which instance is this nonsense against artists coming from
Show threadSunny MoraineDec 20, 2022
@Astrid I really don’t know, it just seems to be an ongoing argument that I haven’t tried to track the source of. Others may have that pinned down better than me.
Show threadSideWalkAstonomyNetherlandsDec 20, 2022
@dynamicsymmetry socialism/fascism does not work. Forcing people into some 19th century Utopian pseudo religion never does, on the long run. And Capitalism doesn't exist, there is how ever Feudalism, it can look like Socialism, Fascism or Capitalism, in the eyes of the ones in power... To us it is a small group forcing us, and taking our stuff from us. And we have no say in it.
Show threadBeach Time CyrielleDec 20, 2022
@dynamicsymmetry this is like like people who get all upset at Punk shows with bands selling merch and tapes. For the scene to have any staying power there will be capital required under our current system. As frustrating as it is.
Show threadT.C. HarrisDec 20, 2022
@dynamicsymmetry I used to see the same thing on regularly Twitter, just I think they were more off in their own little bubble
Show threadDrewDec 20, 2022

@dynamicsymmetry I agree. I usually use the term conditioned by capitalism when talk about the sensory overload of corporate marketing.

And if I am interested in someone I tend to be interest what there making (especially if it's a artist) and by the nature of how capitalism works that normally means what there selling.

Art is a way for us for providing context for ourselves and if they dont know who we are (ironically) there is no context.

Show threadFadeDec 20, 2022

@dynamicsymmetry Yeah, like, heck, 99% of the time I'm posting about my dog or academics or video games or the weather, but when I had my IF project finally come out, I sure as heck did some promotion for that! With links!

...I should add a link to that to my profile, come to think of it. Maybe pin a post about it too.

Show threadJohn ChuDec 20, 2022
@fade @dynamicsymmetry The irony to me is that most people don't do enough promotion. Like those cases where I don't find out someone has a Kickstarter relevant to my interests until week 3.
Show threadSunny MoraineDec 20, 2022
@fade @john_chu Right! Or people who follow authors for forever and somehow never notice that they’re authors with books for sale.