Quinta Jurecicabsence of QT function makes covering news events here really difficult, fwiw
FilmWonkManual QTs are possible (by clicking the three-dot menu and copying the link to the post), but the platform actively discourages it to avoid becoming a place of dunking.
Wurstsemmel 🕊🇺🇦 #SlavaUkraïniI never said it was identical to a QT, but the decision to avoid QTs was clearly a deliberate one. It makes things less convenient for journalists, granted, but so does a timeline that just shows posts in the order they were posted, and that was also clearly a deliberate design choice.
Do you have a substantive argument for why QTs should exist here?
Mr Smith@FilmWonk @wurstsemmel Here’s what @Gargron had to say, back in early 2018: “I've made a deliberate choice against a quoting feature because it inevitably adds toxicity to people's behaviours. You are tempted to quote when you should be replying, and so you speak at your audience instead of with the person you are talking to. It becomes performative. Even when doing it for "good" like ridiculing awful comments, you are giving awful comments more eyeballs that way. No quote toots. Thank's”
@mrsmith @FilmWonk @Gargron But, with all due respect, "performatively", that makes no sense - because:
Lacking any kind of algorithm for timeline content selection (except for chronological sorting), ANY of that content shows up in my feed ANYWAY.
The sole difference is: Does it show up WITH or WITHOUT CONTEXT.
And all I'm saying is: I prefer it to show up WITH CONTEXT, to the maximum extent it can sensibly be retrieved and visualized.
@wurstsemmel @FilmWonk @Gargron
Context is good, of course, but then it raises the question of who provides that context.
If I QRT you and the context I choose to provide is “ha ha ha worst opinion ever”, then that’s not helpful particularly if I have influence on the platform? Or am I oversimplifying?
Out of curiosity, is the lack of algorithm on here so serious that you’d stop using mastodon in favour of Twitter or others? I’m not picking a fight here - I’m just curious what works for you?
@mrsmith @FilmWonk @Gargron "Haha worst opinion" just happens. That's life. NOTHING can save me from that, anywhere. Come more humans, come more bad people. Ignoring basic Communications or Usability features does not heal that. It happens in the streets you walk. It's human nature/weakness. 🤷‍♂️
You don't make it go away with poor UX.
As far as the algorithm is concerned: I'd like to keep my opinion out of the discussion here, please. It's a whole different story.
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I agree - it’s a tough world, but I’ve found a lot of positivity on here, so this is where I’m living at the moment. I call in to Twitter occasionally, and then I catch myself getting angry about something I didn’t even care about.
Then I come back to mastodon and laugh at Musk and how stupid it all is! And I’m calm again and I can talk to people who want to make the world better.
@mrsmith Completely agree. 🤷‍♂️