I had been telling me daughter that energy is the capacity for doing work. However I realised this isn't really accurate, so I've been googling around for a better definition, without much success so far. My confusion is summarised in this ChatGPT session.

Can anyone help me understand what "energy" really is?

@jh It's the quantity that is conserved because (as far as we know) the laws of physics are the same at different points in time =)

[that's probably not too helpful either, and I'll check back in a bit to see if someone posts a helpful definition -- if not, I'll think and try to expand on the above]

@mickeykats Thank you! I'd love to hear more. In particular, I'd be interested in understanding the connection between the conservation definition and the "capacity to do work" definition? How does one lead to the other?

@jh
1/n Ack! I'm not sure how well I can do this (I keep rediscovering that I am not a very good physicist), but let's try

First.. I don't think the definition "energy is the capacity for doing work" is very good. For example, what exactly does capacity mean in this context? If we let the universe evolve forever and it reaches "heat death" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe), the soup that is our sad end-state universe will certainly have some energy, but that energy won't have the "capacity to do work"

Heat death of the universe - Wikipedia

@jh
2/n I don't think it's easy to write down a snappy, universal, and useful definition of 'energy', because it appears in different fields in different ways

Energy is some quantity that turns out to be conserved, but takes many forms -- and these forms can be converted from one to the other (and therefore all have the same unit -- the Joule)

@jh
3/n For example, you can convert kinetic energy (1/2 * mass * velocity^2) into gravitational potential energy (mass * g * height) by throwing a ball onto a roof. When the ball later falls from the roof, it first converts that gravitational potential energy into kinetic energy, and then when it stops moving, the energy is converted into thermal energy (the temperature of the ball and the ground increases).

Incidentally, thermal energy is really kinetic energy on the molecular scale

@jh
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I looked around for some article that describes this better than I can, and this chapter from Feynman's lecture is what I found: https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/I_04.html

Which brings is back to this "the capacity for doing work" thing. To me that sounds more like the definition of "free energy" than just "energy": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermodynamic_free_energy

The Feynman Lectures on Physics Vol. I Ch. 4: Conservation of Energy

Is energy the ability to do work?

Here was my argument against this, the second law of thermodynamics, in effect says that, there is no heat engine that can take all of some energy that was transferred to it by heat and do work on ...

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@SteveByrnes @jh Quite a similar conclusion (I guess it's the right one)

Still I'm more optimistic than you about this: "But can you boil that understanding of energy down into a one sentence "definition" that is technically correct and easy to understand? Well, I can't, and I doubt anyone on earth can."

I think it can be done, we're just not there yet =)

I propose a zoom session some time to nail down the definition of energy!

@mickeykats @SteveByrnes sounds fun! Maybe after finished the book I just bought about it :)
@SteveByrnes I liked your point about defining Mt Everest!
@SteveByrnes Also based on another answer on that page I just bought "Energy, the Subtle Concept"