Drives me crazy that people are still pining away for some magic blue-light arc-reacor sci-fi energy source to save us when solar and wind are out there doing it, as we speak.

"If only we could generate energy cheaper than any fossil fuel, but free of carbon emissions!"

Uh.

And solar's not even close to done yet!

"MIT engineers have developed a scalable fabrication technique to produce paper-thin and lightweight solar cells that can quickly and easily turn any surface into a power source." https://pvbuzz.com/mit-produce-paper-thin-and-lightweight-fabric-solar-cells/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

MIT develops a scalable manufacturing technique to produce paper-thin, lightweight fabric solar cells that can be stuck onto any surface

pvbuzz.com

The fusion discourse is extremely annoying, but it'll be gone again in a day or two, so let me just add two final notes to this.

First: no one, least of all me, is "against" fusion or fusion research. Research away! Yay for science.

Two: what bugs me is nothing about fusion itself but what I see as a very familiar kind of anti-politics. There's a craving for a deus ex machina that solves all problems & transforms everything without all the tedious arguing, fighting, & battling for every inch of ground.
This craving to bypass politics is understandable, but it's bad. Even if fusion proved viable tomorrow, there would still be politics. There would still be fights & disagreements & factionalism. It would still be a long battle to transform the energy system.
People want to transform energy without disrupting the basic systems of political power -- that's a big part of the impetus for "just slot nuke plants in for coal plants & call it a day." System justification is a powerful subconscious force.
https://www.volts.wtf/p/why-social-change-is-so-excruciatingly#details
Why social change is so excruciatingly difficult

When we look across the broad sweep of human history, what needs explaining is not times of rebellion and upheaval, but the much more common periods of unjust rule facing little resistance. Why do people so often internalize the ideologies upholding systems under which they suffer? Why do they fail to fight back? Psychologist John Jost has an answer. I talked it over with him.

Volts
Anyway, part of the appeal of the future-tech stuff is that there's no nasty politics attached to it -- because it's theoretical & in the future. But if it became real, nasty politics would attach to it. Such is life. No way out but through, etc.

@drvolts Not mentioned in the discussions I've read the past week:

1. Tritium (the most likely Hydrogen isotope for use) is usually created in nuclear (fission) reactors.

2. Fusion reactors themselves will likely become irradiated over the course of their operation, requiring hazardous disposal.

These environmental threats are a ton less than for conventional nukes (or coal, ftm), but they will certainly result in some "nasty politics".

@three_star_dave @drvolts Yes. Though tritium may be produced by neutron irradiation in a lithium blanket around the fusion vessel.
@drvolts The libertarian utopia: Oligarchy + fusion power.

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Even if "magic energy sources" such as fusion (or The Expanse's Epstein Drive) WERE already possible - that energy STILL has to be converted to electricity somehow, and THAT part of the plant is STILL every bit as complex, slow and expensive to build and maintain.

@drvolts Remembering how Dutch anarchists (the 'kabouters') wrote about this back in the 1970s: fossil-fuel and nuclear plants are centralized and centralize political control (France back then as a cautionary example). Decentralized wind and PV undermines that. Imagine how survivable the Ukraine energy system would have been...
China’s Climate Goals Hinge on a $440 Billion Nuclear Buildout

China is planning at least 150 new reactors in the next 15 years, more than the rest of the world has built in the past 35.

Bloomberg
@drvolts yea, it completely ignores stuff like the ~1/3 of U.S. building emissions that come from direct fossil fuel usage. That doesn’t just go away no matter what happens with grid electricity. Those are the types of problems where’s there’s no getting around the political grind.
The World Should Be 100% Powered By Renewable Energy Before Nuclear Fusion Is Commercially Competitive

The U.S. Department of Energy announced some big nuclear fusion news this week. It is truly gigantic scientific news, and I don't intend to downplay the breakthrough at all here. I'm amazed and thrilled U.S.

CleanTechnica
@drvolts I like my fusion reactor at a safe distance in space, beaming power back to the earth as light waves.
We have one of those, it's 93 million miles away and the light receiving panels keep getting cheaper.
@KevinMarks @drvolts
But if that fusion reactor is only one astronomical unit away, is it really safe?
@bobwyman @KevinMarks @drvolts Well, it'll be a few billion years before (we're pretty certain that) it will vaporize us, so we've got some time to think up a response.
@drvolts Installed our solar almost exactly a year ago. Looks like we will make 22MwH this year. RI is ~$.22KWH so $4800 of electricity produced
@drvolts I keep threatening to make the roof of the barn where my elderly parents live one huge solar energy surface. My mom hates when I bring it up.

@swampudlian @drvolts
Just do it… now (pref with a small installer (the big ones can be evil).
We put a small array on our shed roof 14 years ago (just 2k) and it produces 50% of our household use.

No moving parts but electrons.
Photo: our small shed with 12 solar panels (and some blueberry bushes).

@Katrinka @drvolts How much do those run ya? Just curious.

@swampudlian @drvolts

They cost us maybe twice as much THEN as they would cost you NOW.
We felt it was worth it. They are Schott panels; they were made in the U.S. but no longer.
I cannot remember cost but I believe we broke even after 10-12 years and those years have flown by.

@Katrinka @drvolts Part of the problem is that I don't live there yet, and Mom rules the joint as things are. Assuming I move there eventually (and that is, roughly, the plan for the future), I'll definitely be looking into it. My sister and I laugh about making the whole giant barn covered in solar panels, and using that electricity to grow marijuana in said barn (it's in Michigan, so totally legal there). Mom would hate this.
@drvolts There are electrical propulsion systems that really need this power to weight!
@drvolts really the main hurdle is battery technology and the political will to go completely hogwild on building and r&d

@drvolts @revolcom
In near future to deploy solar, likely yes

Further out, depends what our goals are — if we’re happy to significantly “over-produce” in summer batteries may suffice as storage mechanism (we should be able to find a use for excess energy)

I suspect more likely will be storage technologies suited to different timescales
— per another post, batteries for “short” duration; potential/thermal storage for “medium”; chemical (e.g. hydrogen, ammonia) for long-term

@drvolts But when can I buy some for a roof installation?