Shout out to the pro-science folks here and on twitter who admonished me for leaving and told me (1) I was letting down the cause and (2) by leaving I was playing politics instead of doing science.

No. A bully runs that house, and I'm walking out the door. You have no right to tell anyone to stay with an abuser and put up with threats to their own safety.

Unless you've weathered three years of death threats for your public health advocacy, keep it to yourself.

@ct_bergstrom walking away is actually the power move.

There is no fighting the good fight over something that someone else owns with complete control.

Real power in the town square is telling your friends and everyone who listens to walk a few blocks over and that is the new town square.

Twitter is only significant because of who uses it.

Remove its significance by walking away.

Staying is actually paying a billionaire to be a RW troll. He looooooves it.

@Brightdave Exceptionally well said. I wish I'd been able to express this so clearly.

@ct_bergstrom @Brightdave

Exactly. The presence of legit scientists, physicians, historians, etc. legitimizes the site. We add value through both posts and reputation.

It's time to withhold that value, in my opinion.

@merz @ct_bergstrom @Brightdave Other than walking away, we maybe also need to start disentangling it from our performance metrics. For instance Twitter has many hooks in bioRxiv that maybe need to be reconsidered (link buttons, metric counts).

@jaymoore @merz @Brightdave

This is an excellent point that I had not previously considered. Thoughts, @richardsever ?

@ct_bergstrom @jaymoore @merz @Brightdave interesting question. as an individual I am increasingly moving away from it. but it's a huge (the) mechanism for people learning of new preprints via subject feeds (unlike FB) and doesn't have the alternatives journals have (Table of contents). we're planning to expand on Mastodon but it's lack of search feature for URLs is a big problem. (many conversations about this in other mast threads)
@richardsever @ct_bergstrom @jaymoore @merz @Brightdave it would be cool to have a bot that people can tag to archive preprint discussions
Richard Sever (@[email protected])

@[email protected] setting up the accounts that make every preprint a bot might be a challenge though (if I interpret you correctly). my hope is one can create a #tinyDOI for each article

mas.to
@richardsever Thank you for pointer, I've added a comment there!
@richardsever @ct_bergstrom @merz @Brightdave I liked it when I could go to Twitter and find all the latest science news and gossip, but it's in the past now. I think we made an error, as a community, relying on a commercial website. We forgot it can be bought by anti-science. I think we should focus on building on open-source.

@merz @ct_bergstrom @Brightdave
I don't disagree with this but torn on how much I should do to generally recreate my feeds. Derek Lowe left birdsite for exactly the reasons listed above, however he has moved to Post (and I can read whatever is posted there fine, so that's not a huge deal) which proliferates the URLs I need to manually open to check stuff.

I'm happy enough leavers decided on Mastodon for now, but many are cautious.

@StommePoes @ct_bergstrom @Brightdave

I mean, I don't pretend that the alternatives to Twitter are great in the sense that they have Old Twitter's maturity as a platform. But Old Twitter is gone, drowned by a sociopath.

@merz @ct_bergstrom @Brightdave
I agree. One interim step is to collectively leave Twitter once a week before leaving entirely. #TweetstrikeTuesday. Send a message on the way out the door.

@ct_bergstrom you have, multiple times in different ways, which is why I follow you.

I'm a molecular biologist and think about systems in different ways all the time. You, and others like you, are great drivers of how we change information dissemination and public discourse around science. Keep being awesome!

@Brightdave @ct_bergstrom Exactly. In a social network, the people ARE the platform. they can form a new platform... anywhere.

@jpanzer @ct_bergstrom perfect! The most succinct summation of this entire chaotic mess.

In a digital world, or words are the power, the town square. Write them elsewhere and the town square is moved.

And if some tech billionaire loses $44 B in the process, 🤷

@jpanzer @ct_bergstrom *where words are power...*

Damn it! That was a bad typo. Sorry.

@Brightdave @ct_bergstrom
I don't agree,I think this is a narrow perspective.
I guess some people (like myself) who even before Twitter did grassroots counter-info &what was then called 'countercultural' work see it all very differently; many of us are painfully aware of how dangerous it can be to stop reaching out to people who are not your 'natural' interlocutors.
There are of other reasons,too,&some of the best imo can be found in this interview to Johnathan Flowers:
https://techpolicy.press/the-whiteness-of-mastodon/
The Whiteness of Mastodon

A conversation with Dr. Johnathan Flowers about Elon Musk's changes at Twitter and the dynamics on Mastodon, the decentralized alternative.

Tech Policy Press

@noawitheringly @Brightdave

Responding because we've had good conversations in the past and I have appreciated your voice.

This reminds me of the person on here who chided me for blocking nazis instead of trying to change their minds with loving engagement.

Sorry, I'm not superhuman.

That's futile and no one has the right to tell me whether I should remain in a situation where I feel profoundly unsafe.

I've paid my dues but even if I hadn't I'd still have the right to say that.

@ct_bergstrom
I am very sorry my recent replies (those on Twitter, too) sounded like wanting to put pressure on you.
I apologise, I assure you it wasn't my intention to do that, and I'll refrain from including you in any similar posts of mine.
I'm very grateful to you for the work you did on Twitter & beyond, you know that. You imo did much more than most.
I'm concerned about scientists who never did that, though & now never will.
But, I agree, I shouldn't have addressed these concerns to you.
@Brightdave @ct_bergstrom I mean, who wants to be seen on Steve Bannons Breitbart?#twittermigration #nazitwitter

@Brightdave @ct_bergstrom You wouldn't publish research in a journal whose lead was actively encouraging people to join QAnon, right?

I'm surprised more people haven't left, after he did that the other day.

@Brightdave @ct_bergstrom Independent of the town square construct, I believe in curative comedy. Humor is tragedy/trauma plus time/process. The Devil hateth mockery. Pointing and laughing at the weirdos with unprocessed trauma and contrarian personality quirks because they aren’t intentionally funny or “in on the joke” is deeply satisfying.
Point 👉 + laugh 😆 = power 💪🏼