Ok, one of the main Twitter features that I’m definitely missing is the quote retweet because it’s been an important and impactful teaching strategy…it enables me to highlight an issue/concern by adding often missing perspectives/voices/narratives/historical framing/etc

@KimCrayton1

Yup. Most of Black Twitter used QRTs differently.

A lot of non-Black Twitter only saw it where accounts with millions of followers would pick on a small account to get their followers to dogpile.

Most of Black Twitter used it exactly as you described... The online equivalent of Black folk talking *to each other* about some nonsense that someone in a position of power said.

The problem here is that the non-Black folks don't believe the other use cases.

@mekkaokereke @KimCrayton1 I don't think it's disbelief that there *are* positive uses - that's self-evident - but a conviction that the *net* impact is negative. It's not just the dogpiling, but that QRTing for criticism amplifies the OP (in the Fediverse, critical QRTs of toxic accounts would make those accounts proliferate across Federated feeds, thus motivating trolling). I'm just not clear if the conviction is based on analysis or just a personal instinct.

@outeast @KimCrayton1

No, it's also disbelief that there are positive uses, as I said.

Here's one example (from my now abandoned mastodon.cloud account, RIP!).

Geoff starts out saying I'm disingenuous, then that this can't be how Black people use the feature because he's never seen it used that way, despite the fact that he doesn't interact with many (any?) Black users on Twitter.

https://mastodon.cloud/@mekkaokereke/109359366766816080

Please, don't use this to bother him. Let him be!

Mekka :verified: πŸ’‰πŸ’‰πŸ’‰πŸŽ‰ (@[email protected])

@[email protected] @[email protected] Short version: On Twitter, Black folk often talk to each other *about* what powerful but clueless white folk in power say. QTs make that easy to do. Unfortunately, QTs are also used to enable unpleasant conversation. Throughout US history, white folk have prioritized pleasant conversation over enabling social change. This is the point of MLK's least famous words πŸ™‚: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gfFWzacEgAI Mastodon is no different.

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@mekkaokereke @outeast @KimCrayton1 if I may offer a different perspective: the people who experienced QTs as a source of toxicity also has a real hard time convincing the white cishets that that's the case. Some may have taken up an extreme position against it because they, too, felt completely ignored.

@Dubikan @outeast @KimCrayton1

I'm not saying QTs didn't have toxic uses. I'm saying 2 very specific things, with concrete examples:

1) Black Twitter used QTs differently
2) Some Mastodon folk refuse to believe that Black folk used it differently, and speak dismissively to Black folk about QTs having no real alternate uses

I do understand that many trans folk helped build early Mastodon. I also understand that Black trans folk exist.

@Dubikan @outeast @KimCrayton1

Building a space that works for Black trans folk is a better goal.

And the "No QTs!" folk didn't have that hard a time convincing cishet folk here of the problems, as evidenced by the fact that there are no QTs here, never have been any here, and the topic itself is almost verboten.

But hey. I'm not even tripping if there are no QTs. I'm mainly talking about the way Black user concerns are dismissed out of hand.

@mekkaokereke @outeast @KimCrayton1 in the first few days of the #twitterexodus there was A LOT of arguing from normies in favour of QTs, including completely denying the experiences of those arguing against them. Us white cishets are a right bunch, I'm afraid.
@mekkaokereke @outeast @KimCrayton1 But do remember Twitter didn't always having QTs either. It's not necessarily a default feature - it's a design decision with its pros and cons. Twitter added it not to support black users, but to increase user engagement and make more money.
Let's work together to derive the benefits black users saw, without the drawbacks LGBTQ+ experienced. I'm sure we can figure it out.