Dave Troy 
1/West is no more “mentally ill” than Musk. They are both exhibiting signs of heavy influence. Indeed it is some kind of plantation mindset that seems to want to excuse West as lacking agency and being a victim while assuming Musk has full agency. In fact, evidence suggests they have collaborated for years and continue to do so now.
2/What we are seeing here is a form of Kayfabe intended to warp the Overton window, choke out other reasoned discourse, and scramble our sense-making capacity. Don’t let them do it. Give them no quarter. This is a war; expect acts of war.
4/Seriously. When Musk is unhinged people ask, “why… what’s the endgame?” When West does it, it’s “the man needs help, people are taking advantage of him.” It’s a double standard. Stop it. Start learning about influence and how it works. Learn about modem information war. They are each performing a role, and taking the world for fools. Don’t let them.
Bianca@davetroy The bipolar disorder they share, and the need for attention, and relevance makes theses men vulnerable. It’s unfortunate that they have such a large platform and resources. We need less sociopaths in leadership roles in this country. #BeBetterAmerica
Buster McNutt@davetroy my mo is to be vulgarly dismissive in concert with the magnitude of their offense, but people don't like that.
⚡️ axeshun ⚡️ @davetroy They are taking the world, FROM fools, as well.
Lil_bit_lzbth@davetroy
Interesting that some of this West talk started ratcheting up after he settled in Wyoming. I'm sure Erik Prince and his band of misfits have no interest in using his status to their ends.
Interesting that some of this West talk started ratcheting up after he settled in Wyoming. I'm sure Erik Prince and his band of misfits have no interest in using his status to their ends.
noonanI'd say there's also an element of West being considered an artist though the same kind of excuse making doesn't always happen for artists, musicians, etc. but West has always promoted himself as a creative genius. IMO he's helped cultivate the excuses of mental illness. It starts with claims of eccentricity etc.
There's a lot more that can be said about this that's not worth getting into.
I think West's motives are far more material and he's a willing participant.
I mean the guy was flat out asking for a billion dollars not that long ago. He worked with Kushner/Trump to try and form a fake candidacy to siphon votes away from Democrats in order to help Trump win.
He knows what he's doing. He has ulterior motives. He's not the tortured artist pretend he his. He's not being taken advantage of by others. He wanted to buy Parler (perhaps not a sincere gesture on his part).
There are things motivating his behavior of which we're not aware.
Ted Seuss @davetroy the show has just begun.
Jesuis 
Jednička
Will Pollock@davetroy my god.
Euploid Cell@davetroy Sadly, Jordan just got reelected.
Klassiker@davetroy multiple goals behind this act: They can shift the discourse a little bit more to the right, the players on the networks are trying exactly this right now ("hey, that part wasn't that bad" etc etc) and Musk could show how the really bad stuff still gets moderated to sow reasonable doubt about his intentions and how far he really is in the right wing corner. We can watch those attempts in real life as some pundits are spinning it right this way.
Sedunker@davetroy You're right about moving the Overton window. We've got people saying "whew, Alex Jones looks SANE compared to this" which subtly gets people thinking of Jones as somewhat reasonable, which is the truly insane thing
@davetroy Our society has tried pound into our heads, that we only respect those who could cause us physical harm or those who can afford to pay for the same. They have succeeded with nearly 1/3 of Americans. We need non-political (atheletes, military, business owners...) spokespeople who exude physical strength and also wealthy individuals to deliver all democratic messaging to reach those people, before it's too late.
@davetroy Exactly. If power disruption is good enough for the Ukraine war, it is similarly good for the US . . .