Chad Loder
NEW: Left-Wing Voices Are Silenced on Twitter as Far-Right Trolls Advise Elon Musk
Elon Musk appears to have out-sourced decisions about who to ban from Twitter to the platform’s right-wing extremists. https://theintercept.com/2022/11/29/elon-musk-twitter-andy-ngo-antifascist/
Left-Wing Voices Are Silenced on Twitter as Far-Right Trolls Advise Elon Musk

Elon Musk appears to have outsourced decisions about who to ban from Twitter to the platform’s right-wing extremists, like Andy Ngo.

The Intercept
Nov 29, 2022 at 5:52pmWeb
Show threadThe Ghost of GCNov 29, 2022
@chadloder i saw that he banned you after asking about the hack - really fucked up.
Show threadantifanttiNov 29, 2022

@chadloder yes, it's a farce. I have three more days of ban for "hateful conduct" for calling out someone hyping for warcrimes

I made an appeal which was rejected. I bet andy is reviewing those appeals, or a team picked by him. I expect to be banned again soon after but no matter, as long as I have time to change my username to mastodon username we will be golden. Apartheid clyde can fuck right off with his creepy far right pals

Show threadsxpertNov 29, 2022
@chadloder @antifantti I was locked out for one week for calling out US war crimes.
Got my data out and closed the account on day 3
Show threadjack trinderNov 29, 2022

@chadloder i got perma banned for minor insults basically

the other person was incredibly racist and nothing happend to them

Show thread📎🖐️ Alan Taylor 🎬 📚Nov 29, 2022

@chadloder

'Among the other prominent accounts suspended were the Elm Fork John Brown Gun Club, an antifascist group that provides armed security for LGBTQ+ events in North Texas'
#TwitterTakeover

Show threadExCameramanJimNov 29, 2022
@chadloder Why are we not surprised.
Show threadDudeNov 29, 2022
@chadloder free speech absolutism in action!
Show threadAris TeonNov 29, 2022
@chadloder Mr Unfree Speech Absolutist showing exactly what many of us have been saying about the far right's real intent when they claim to be the champions of free speech. They just want the freedom to lie, harass, threat and silence those they don't like
Show thread0x4E4448Nov 30, 2022
@aristeon @chadloder What Musk is implementing and what free speech supporters want are not the same thing. Sure, free speech has negative aspects, but it also gives you the ability to dispute and disprove what people are saying. Without free speech, you may or may not have that option.
Show threadAris TeonNov 30, 2022
@0x4E4448 @chadloder free speech means expressing your views, not using speech to commit crimes. A mafia boss plotting a murder is not free speech.
Show thread0x4E4448Nov 30, 2022
@aristeon @chadloder Technically, no, that’s free speech. It’s the call to action. If someone said they were going to kill someone else but they don’t actually have the ability to do so and they make no attempt to do so, that’s not a crime. It’s the fire in a crowded theater argument. You can tell fire in a crowded theater if there is a fire or if, in context, it’s known not to be an emergency, but if you yell fire with the intent of causing panic, that’s illegal.
Show threadAris TeonNov 30, 2022
@0x4E4448 @chadloder and that applies to the far right. Other cases include harassment and threats. If you call someone and threaten them it's a crime. If a teacher harasses a student the teacher can be fired. If a hotel guest harasses other guests they can be kicked out. Social media speech policies against harassment, threats and conspiracy are reasonable.
Show thread0x4E4448Nov 30, 2022
@aristeon @chadloder again, read what I said. Those wouldn’t all be illegal as you stated them. More context would be necessary.
Show thread0x4E4448Nov 30, 2022
@aristeon @chadloder Part of the issue is that people are so easily offended. I can say one thing completely innocently and simply because someone else perceives it a different way, it can result in people getting banned or punished. It’s happened to me when simply discussing a very similar topic.
Show threadAris TeonNov 30, 2022
@0x4E4448 @chadloder you're conflating different issues. A person getting offended has nothing to do with social media rules. People can ignore you if they don't like you.
Show thread0x4E4448Nov 30, 2022
@aristeon @chadloder No it’s not. I literally got banned from a social media platform because I was having a discussion about how Mastodon is leftist. @stux said it’s perceived that way because they don’t tolerate bullying. I said if someone says there are two genders, someone else may perceive that as bullying. I was immediately banned for transphobia despite having made no argument either direction and simply using it as an example.
Show threadAris TeonNov 30, 2022
@0x4E4448 @chadloder @stux that's not what I'm talking about. We can't have a discussion if you keep talking about something else. I'm talking about rules regarding harassment, threats, racism, violence and other very specific things such as paedophilia. I got banned too because I called Tomi Lahren a Nazi and I do criticize social media for being arbitrary, but one issue are the rules and another issue is whether they implement their own rules properly.
Show thread0x4E4448Nov 30, 2022
@aristeon @chadloder I was also told I could try to walk it back to get unbanned, but how do you walk back something you never never did?
Show threadWinter TrabexNov 29, 2022
@chadloder Well this was an obvious outcome
Show threadMaxxNov 29, 2022
@chadloder ah! Hah! Found you.
Show threadCoach Sankhavaram ®Nov 29, 2022
@chadloder it was so predictable
Show threadThe Original LuzahNov 29, 2022
@chadloder I'm just Little me but my account was permanently suspended when I made my icon a pic of Elon before hair transplants. He's very sensitive.
Show threadTofu GolemNov 29, 2022
@chadloder
Good. Twitter will die even faster this way.
Show threadStephen FierbaughNov 29, 2022
@chadloder Article has a number of Mastadon accounts to follow. :-)
Show threadEvelynNov 29, 2022
@chadloder
That is certainly how it appears. Since you were suspended, you are an asset and I am glad you are on Mastodon now!
Show threadBlazeNov 29, 2022
@chadloder But my problem with that, your also quoting a leftist news article. As the Intercept has made oppressive articles towards free speech.
Show threadChad LoderNov 29, 2022
@blazepog Do you have specific factual rebuttals or would you like to continue to talk nonsense?
Show threadBlazeNov 29, 2022
@chadloder Have you gotten information from other news sources or are you relying on one article? Or perhaps analyzed the threats for removal off the App Store from Apple. Who is a company known to be an oppressive tech tyrant like Microsoft was in the 90’s.
Show threadChad LoderNov 29, 2022
@blazepog Thanks for answering my question. Go sealion elsewhere.
Show threadPeter SterneNov 29, 2022
@chadloder Did you download your Twitter archive so you can re-upload all the archived evidence of far-right violence somewhere else? Or is all that reporting just gone for good?
Show threadChad LoderNov 29, 2022
@petersterne I regularly downloaded my archive over the years
Show threadcostrikeNov 30, 2022
@chadloder I'm having trouble seeing a path forward where it doesn't get continually worse over there.
Show threadHempEdificationNationNov 30, 2022
@chadloder heh 100% this. My account got locked this morning for hateful conduct but no posts were highlited and I was not given a chance to appeal or remove .