@vortex_egg @Pwnallthethings @malwaretech @caderoux @mattblaze

I know that's what we say, but I just don't find that argument convincing. I think the main character pile-on situations came from the engagement-maximizing algorithm.

And there's real functionality lost by not having quote-post. From my pov, I'd like to see why someone chooses to boost something, or a two sentence summary that's likely to be of interest to me rather than a simple boost. Or worse, boosts of every post in a thread.

@vortex_egg @Pwnallthethings @malwaretech @caderoux @mattblaze

Of course, I could be wrong. And maybe I'm more easily tempted into malicious behavior than I think I am ...

@colo_lee @vortex_egg @malwaretech @caderoux @mattblaze I wrote about it a bit here. But yeah, QTs have a lot more to answer for than I think most folks assume. https://www.pwnallthethings.com/p/twitter-was-special-but-its-time
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@Pwnallthethings @vortex_egg @malwaretech @caderoux @mattblaze
Here's a couple use cases where, in a previous life, I would have used QT.

What's the Mastodon-native way to do these? I'll be happy to adopt it. Is it anything more than screenshot & link?

In all of these, I'm trying to
1) provide context or highlight something particular in the original post/thread
2) make it easy and compelling for a reader to go to the original post
3) make it easy to follow the poster

@colo_lee @Pwnallthethings @vortex_egg @malwaretech @caderoux @mattblaze

i think the main problem with all of these is who you're communicating with

you're not talking to the poster, you're not engaging in the conversation, you're talking to your followers ABOUT the post/poster

so even if you use it for a good cause (and your list certainly is that), qt still encourages soapboxing, so we start posting performatively and insincerely, often even without noticing

@almostconverge @Pwnallthethings @vortex_egg @malwaretech @caderoux @mattblaze

That's true -- in every case, I'm moving the conversation away from the original poster.
I think this can be a good thing to do: Talk about things sparked by the original post w/o centering the first speaker.

Obviously, yr mileage may vary. But there are real cases where the polite thing to do is to reframe the topic along w/ an audience change.

You can make your own judgments about whether I'm acting sincerely.

@colo_lee @Pwnallthethings @vortex_egg @malwaretech @caderoux @mattblaze

of course, one conversation sparking another is a great thing, i love to see it

and i will continue to do that with whatever means are available, like paraphrasing and referencing the original author

the way i see it is like this: if it isn't worth me doing some extra work to express my thoughts about something, it probably wasn't worth saying in the first place

@colo_lee @Pwnallthethings @vortex_egg @malwaretech @caderoux @mattblaze

but i did catch myself several times trying to dunk on someone and halfway through thinking "nah, not worth the hassle"

and that's i think where the real value is: you can't stop awful people doing awful things on purpose, but you can stop well-meaning folk acting on a bad impulse

@almostconverge @colo_lee @Pwnallthethings @vortex_egg @malwaretech @mattblaze there is also a significant difference in the presentation when you use a link - For whatever reason, there is no preview here in the QT example where I paste the link in the old school way. Lol, it's not letting me attach the image...
@almostconverge @Pwnallthethings @vortex_egg @malwaretech @caderoux @mattblaze that last part is why, in a previous life in a different world, I tried to usually QT rather than RT. If I didn't have anything to say, then I shouldn't just boost something ...
@colo_lee @almostconverge @Pwnallthethings @vortex_egg @malwaretech @mattblaze it seems to me that liberal boosting (and QT, FWIW, despite the pileon fears) is vital for both people who organically curate their feed and people who don't follow significant numbers of people and rely instead on the local timeline or things derived from there.

@caderoux @almostconverge @Pwnallthethings @vortex_egg @malwaretech @mattblaze

If each person is responsible for curating their own timeline, which is what reverse chrono timeline means, then we need the tools to do that. Better preview, with CW filtering, and post quoting/ contextualizing seem like useful tools to me...