Citoyen MRNov 25, 2022

This is one of my favorite pictures. It feels like it was taken yesterday… but it was taken in a Paris public garden nearly a hundred years ago. Everything feels modern: the composition, the casualness, the daring clothes, haircuts, and accessories.

The colors are original: this is an #autochrome, using the first process for color #photography invented by the Lumière brothers in 1903.

The women are unknown, but I can't help wondering how they fared a few years later in nazi-occupied Paris.

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@citoyen

Is it known who took the picture and if they did more?
It is a very suprising picture for that time period

Nov 25, 2022 at 2:14pmWeb
Show threadSam ​Nov 25, 2022
@AuriBlackCat @citoyen The photographer was André Zucca
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@Skreee

Tthank you ^^

Show threadSam ​Nov 25, 2022
@AuriBlackCat My pleasure
Show threadCitoyen MRNov 25, 2022
@Skreee @AuriBlackCat is that so? The Musée Nicéphore Niepce which has it in its collection says it's by "Anonymous" on its webpage.
Show threadSam ​Nov 25, 2022
@citoyen That name is give on the web and seems to fit with his oeuvre. This might be a case of everybody copying everybody else on the web. But some of the articles are about an exhibition of his in 2008 which was quite controversial, so I think that's a good reason to think it's his.
Show threadJennifer TaubNov 25, 2022

@citoyen @AuriBlackCat @Skreee

Sigh. Just read that Zucca was a Nazi collaborator

Show threadCitoyen MRNov 25, 2022
@jentaub
Again, the museum that holds this autochrome does not attribute it to Zucca and says it was taken circa 1930. See links in other comments.
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Show threadJeanne à véloNov 25, 2022

@AuriBlackCat
According to Nicéphore Niépce Museum's website, the picture was taken c. 1930 (you have to scroll down : https://www.museeniepce.com/index.php?/collections/la-vie-des-collections/Acquisitions).

The photographer remains unknown.

"They are dressed in a bold way" comments the Museum who owns this #autochrome.

@citoyen

musée Nicéphore Niépce - Acquisitions

Show threadGareth StackNov 25, 2022
@jeanneavelo @AuriBlackCat @citoyen links broken on mobile but thats more believable alright
Show threadJeanne à véloNov 25, 2022
@garethstack
Full comment:
"This autochrome has the particularity of proposing an extremely modern subject: two women, "two friends", who are not posing and are dressed in a daring manner. The haircut is modern, the outfit is free and dares to reveal the skin, the glasses become accessories; it is the time of a certain liberation of the woman, of the rise of women's fashion, of the abandonment of constraints and corsets. The woman's body emancipates itself from the bourgeois shackles."
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Show threadHenkPoleyNov 25, 2022

@garethstack @jeanneavelo @AuriBlackCat @citoyen

It is "Autochrome, Anonyme, Paris, vers 1930" on that page.

Show threadmenschenfreundNov 25, 2022

@garethstack

If you are in fedilab, the latest update might fix the link issues.

Show threadLes TombéNov 26, 2022
@jeanneavelo @AuriBlackCat @citoyen Thanks for that link to such a GREAT site.
Show threadAndrea CasalottiNov 25, 2022

@AuriBlackCat @citoyen

According to this commenter on Reddit, it was taken in 1940. The photographer Zucca bacame a Nazi collaborator

https://www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolCool/comments/6bxr3w/parisian_women_taken_by_french_photographer_andre/

Parisian Women - taken by French photographer Andre Zucca with rare Agfacolor film (1940s)

Posted in r/OldSchoolCool by u/paternalpadfoot • 83 points and 4 comments

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Show threadWesDymJan 22, 2023
@acasalotti "According to this commenter on reddit"