Dave Lane  ðŸ‡³ðŸ‡¿Nov 25, 2022
Wow. Folks using Github need to be aware of this: https://blog.freeyourgadget.org/our-dmca-takedown-a-post-mortem.html #gadgetbridge #DMCATakeDown #lawyerUp
Our DMCA takedown: a post-Mortem — Freeyourgadget blog

Show threadTheory_of_Everything  Nov 25, 2022

@lightweight exactly the reason I moved from github to sourcehut + selfhosted cgit.

I dont want this to happen on githubs terms.

Show threadDave Lane  ðŸ‡³ðŸ‡¿Nov 25, 2022
@theorytoe I moved to 2 self-hosted Gitlabs... but now uncomfortable with their open core biz model... pondering my next move. And I think it's good to avoid using US-owned/domiciled companies if possible for hosting due to DMCA, US Cloud, and Patriot Acts which are massive overreach.
Show threadTheory_of_Everything  Nov 25, 2022

@lightweight if you're looking for software.

gitea is hands down the best choice if you are familar with gitlab.

Show threadDave Lane  ðŸ‡³ðŸ‡¿Nov 25, 2022
@theorytoe I've been eyeing it up, but am a bit concerned it might go the same way as Gitlab give its dev lead's recent blog post...
Show threadTheory_of_Everything  Nov 25, 2022

@lightweight
yeah...
I have a bit of concern to. (i dont particularly agree with drew on his takes)

but it seems as the whole is open, so theres oppertunity to fork if needed.

Also sucks that the debian packages kinda stink.

Show threadocdtrekkieNov 25, 2022

@djsumdog @lightweight @theorytoe Drew is an acquired taste, but I would argue he is a hugely valuable presence in FOSS. He reminds me of RMS in his moral absolutism about free software, but without the really problematic behaviors and statements of RMS.

As much as I *don't* agree with Drew a lot of the time, I feel people holding his opinions strongly is valuable to the community and it keeps the Overton window of FOSS from sliding too far.

Show threaddjsumdog

but without the really problematic behaviors and statements of RMS.

eh, he’s still a child. I know it was 10 years ago, but he did hostile takeover an IRC chatroom:

https://www.omnimaga.org/news/omnomirc-moved-to-new-server/

and just two years ago back on my old instance we had several DMs where he ended up blocking me because I had reposed a video by Candice Owens and wouldn’t denounce it. .. I dunno, dude rubs me the wrong way and is arrogant.

OmnomIRC moved to new server

OmnomIRC moved to new server

Nov 25, 2022 at 5:11amWeb
Show threadTheory_of_Everything  Nov 25, 2022

@djsumdog @lightweight @ocdtrekkie

Interesting. Ill take note of that.

This drastically changes my perceptions of him.

Show threadocdtrekkieNov 25, 2022
@theorytoe @djsumdog @lightweight I think eleven years is a really long time to hold a grudge on the Internet, tbh. And again, I'm not saying he's a saint, but he isn't Richard "Pedophilia probably shouldn't be illegal, actually" Stallman.
Show threadTheory_of_Everything  Nov 25, 2022

@ocdtrekkie @djsumdog @lightweight

Its not that its a grudge, its an example of past behavior. It wouldnt be to far from the truth to say that its a reason to be wary. Sure people change, but past actions still stain one's reputation and give insight on to what they might do in the future.

as for stallman, the accusations thrown on him were 99% corpos trying to get rid of his presence in the foss community. Sure, what he has "claimed[1]" is weird, but they are words, not actions.

[1]: With a suprising lack of evidence coming from the accusers. Makes you think huh?

Show threadocdtrekkieNov 25, 2022

@theorytoe @djsumdog @lightweight My own behavior has changed drastically in the past 11 years. I would say it's not a useful signal at that point.

I won't go deeper into RMS tonight, but I think it's deeply problematic the FSF allows him to remain involved for numerous reasons.

Show threadtyilNov 25, 2022
@[email protected] If you want the barrier to be low, and don't like Drew himself, you can just self-host #Sourcehut or #cgit, and let people submit patches by email. No requirements for registering new accounts, people won't even need to open their browsers!