Mark O - Hall monitor typeNov 18, 2022
Self explanatory statements below. I have a theory on this.
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#poll #extrovert #introvert #mastodon
Extrovert enjoying Mastodon
12.5%
Extrovert not enjoying Mastodon
1.7%
Introvert enjoying Mastodon
79.1%
Introvert not enjoying Mastodon
6.7%
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Show threadFubaroqueNov 18, 2022

@mojomoomoo Well it's obvious that influencers will miss the algorithm here on Mastodon. They will have to use real content instead of hype.

Not as easy for them. But bottom line not a bad thing.

Show threadantipode77Nov 21, 2022

@fubaroque @mojomoomoo

I assume influencers are mainly extroverts. So they will want a lot of interaction from other people.

Show threadMark O - Hall monitor type
@antipode77 @fubaroque
I think it goes beyond that, influencers get a buzz out of it and a dopamine hit. They've come here and like an addict who needs a bigger hit they get bored very quickly. Algorithms help with that on Twitter and Instagram. No such help here.
Nov 21, 2022 at 2:28pmWeb
Show threadantipode77Nov 21, 2022

@mojomoomoo @fubaroque

And a good thing there is no help here for that.

Where we direct our attention ought to be intrinsically motivated, not externally manipulated.

The world would be better with a lot less advertising.

Show threadJoel Montes de Oca 🦀Nov 22, 2022

@mojomoomoo @antipode77 @fubaroque that's an interesting thought. So, it seems content influencers are addicted to algorithms because playing the algorithms right has a similar result in the brain as hitting a jackpot on a slot machine...

YouTube didn't create a way to bring better content to the top, they recreated the effects of a casino. 

Show threadMark O - Hall monitor typeNov 22, 2022
@JoelMon @antipode77 @fubaroque
They want that effect for everybody, content producers and users. Everyone gets that dopamine hit.
yesterday I switched mastodon over to slow mode. I now need to click to refresh. That dopamine hit no longer comes automatically. I think even though Mastodon is not a profit making entity, even they realise that hit will keep users coming back so slow mode is only an option, not standard.
Show threadJoel Montes de Oca 🦀Nov 22, 2022

@mojomoomoo @antipode77 @fubaroque

That really got me thinking now. The algorithms that keeps the streams going and the users scrolling for the dopamine hit is a real case for addiction.

On a slight fork that reconnects from the above, I remember reading something that boredom is a kin to mental "pain" when you are used to constant entertainment. I'm searching my zettelkasten for the source.

Show threadMark O - Hall monitor typeNov 22, 2022
@JoelMon @antipode77 @fubaroque
And I'm now reading about zettelkasten
Show threadJoel Montes de Oca 🦀Nov 22, 2022

@mojomoomoo @antipode77 @fubaroque
Ha! I posted about it recently with a book and youtube video related to the zettlekasten system.

https://fosstodon.org/@JoelMon/109379030200067519

Joel Montes de Oca 🦀 (@[email protected])

@notnorm @[email protected] awesome, I HIGHLY recommend the book How to Take Smart Notes by Sönke Ahrens. https://www.worldcat.org/title/how-to-take-smart-notes-one-simple-technique-to-boost-writing-learning-and-thinking-for-students-academics-and-nonfiction-book-writers/oclc/1003209782 The author also gave a talk related to the topic of the book that is on YouTube and it's great. https://youtu.be/nPOI4f7yCag #zettlekasten #notes #writing

Fosstodon
Show threadMark O - Hall monitor typeNov 22, 2022
@JoelMon
My brain now hurts after reading the page I did Zetelkasten.de introduction needs to use the method to format that page.
Show threadMark O - Hall monitor typeNov 22, 2022
@JoelMon @antipode77 @fubaroque
Interesting, I was thinking how the method would be perfect for person Bible study, especially as cross-referencing is so valuable.
I don't know if you use XML, but it looks like XML would work on a similar basis. I don't really know XML but have seen it in use where this kind of referencing is invaluable.
Show threadJoel Montes de Oca 🦀Nov 22, 2022
@mojomoomoo writing notes in XML would be really tedious. Markdown (markdownguide.org) on the other hand, allows writing and format a document quickly and easily. There are a lot of markdown MD, editors out there that render MD as you type but they are not needed. You can write in anything you like. Check out the link I posted and see if it's something you can make use of.
Show threadBᴏɴɴɪᴇNov 23, 2022
@JoelMon
It kinda seems like min/maxing in a video game but too boring imo.
@mojomoomoo @antipode77 @fubaroque
Show threadMark O - Hall monitor typeNov 23, 2022
@ModernDarkAge @JoelMon @antipode77 @fubaroque
Not being a gamer I don't quite get the comparison. Do you find mastodon boring?
Show threadBᴏɴɴɪᴇNov 23, 2022
@mojomoomoo
No. I use both Twitter & Mastodon but I always used Twitter basically the way Mastodon already is by using lists, notifications, etc. "Optimizing my presence" on social media is boring for me. I just like to read & goof off with others so I never "played the SM game" by researching methods to min/max, get the most views, followers, etc. People do the same in video games for efficiency, better gear, stats, etc.
@JoelMon @antipode77 @fubaroque
Show threadMark O - Hall monitor typeNov 23, 2022
@ModernDarkAge @JoelMon @antipode77 @fubaroque
Makes sense, I like posting and never expect anything, is usually like shouting into the void. I've just got lucky a couple of times on her. And what we're doing now is what I get the most from, just chats and discussions. Even debates on here are not toxic like on Twitter.
Show threadMark O - Hall monitor typeNov 23, 2022
@ModernDarkAge @JoelMon @antipode77 @fubaroque
If I ever play games I tend to not get overly involved, I think the longest I've ever played one is maybe a week or so. My mum though, I think she currently holds the highest score in the world on bubble blaster ( I know that's not gaming per se)
Show threadBᴏɴɴɪᴇNov 23, 2022

@mojomoomoo
I don't know that one. It doesn't sound like a genre I play. :p

With the type of games I like, getting overly involved is the objective. 🤣
@JoelMon @antipode77 @fubaroque

Show threadMark O - Hall monitor typeNov 23, 2022
@ModernDarkAge @JoelMon @antipode77 @fubaroque it's a genre nobody should play. What would be up your street? I'm curious now?
Show threadBᴏɴɴɪᴇNov 23, 2022
@mojomoomoo
Hm, looking at the top tags on steam for me: Open World Survival Craft, Base Building, Moddable, Sandbox, Indie, Simulation & although I am wickedly good at RTS games I play those less frequently. I've played a lot of MMORPGs but it's only fun with friends. Most games are much more fun with friends imo. I'm a fan of Skyrim & Fallout: New Vegas but I usually don't find AAA games terribly interesting.
@JoelMon @antipode77 @fubaroque
Show threadBᴏɴɴɪᴇNov 23, 2022
@mojomoomoo
Oh lastly, I find it fun to do things like that in video games but not on SM. It's probably because I don't find attention/popularity as rewarding as intellectually stimulating activities like videos games, reading, & actual engaging conversations.
@JoelMon @antipode77 @fubaroque