On the "quote tweet" debate:

QT is one of several decisions that made Twitter into a place where powerful or 'influential' people post, and most of the other posts are reactions to that material โ€“ agreement, dunks, critiques, jokes, etc.

Even if people didn't always use it for that themselves, it was part of creating the overall feeling that there is one big topic under discussion at any given time โ€“ and so of course you add your opinion on that topic.

Not having QT also encourages replies!

@tomw

* Without QT, I can't explain why people should read the reboosted thread

* Without QT, I can't help others decide whether they *want* to actually read it.

* Without QT, I can't give people the chance to read a short summary instead of the full thread

* QT is personal. Reboost is impersonal.

* I'd argue that reboost does MORE to concentrate focus on individuals and specific posts than QT. More focus on strangers' views than your friends' views.

@nafnlaus To be honest over-long threads that require this sort of summary/recommendation are another Twitter-ism that Mastodon is less suited for, and I'm glad of it. We could all do with less 100-post long threads.
@tomw I couldn't disagree more. I *love* long, detailed, informative threads. I want *more* of those, not fewer.

@nafnlaus Longer does not mean more informative.

(I could do 100 posts on the above thought if you'd like, but I think you get the idea.)

@tomw I'm sorry, but the amount of information you can express IS highly limited by length. If I want to, say, post a thread about where #lithium comes from, from start to its ultimate incorporation into li-ion batteries, that's just not going to fit in 500 characters.

Heck, the above paragraph alone was 230 characters!

@nafnlaus All that work just so someone can quote-tweet it and write "tldr brines and ores"

@tomw If a person doesn't care, why make them have to wade through a long thread?

And I've *never* seen quote tweets used in the way you portray. It's always the person's take. The person *you follow, and thus appreciate*'s take.

@nafnlaus @tomw

Thanks for the interesting back and forth. Both POVs I agree with.

However the majority use of QT that I have seen is still "take comment out of context and say it is bad".

It means if you make a joke then people will assume you're sincere and that's not good with how heated things get.

@Homebrewandhacking @tomw Can you back that up? That's not been my experience with QTs at all.

@nafnlaus @tomw
Here is the example that is fresh in my mind from someone I personally respect greatly, but who got it super wrong.

What I saw
https://mobile.twitter.com/Joannechocolat/status/1592549226948755460

When I clicked through
https://mobile.twitter.com/John_Attridge

Perhaps Ms Harris is in on the joke despite appearing not to be? Her followers mostly aren't. Even in this clearcut case we're relying on 110k people to get it right. I block people who do this maliciously so don't have further examples.

Joanne Harris on Twitter

โ€œ*whispers:* ALL narrators are unreliable.โ€

Twitter

@nafnlaus @tomw

Just came across this:

"The quote tweet manufactured the concept of a Twitter โ€œmain characterโ€; a person so wrong that everyone in the world would quickly know of it."

And of course... Trump.

https://www.pwnallthethings.com/p/twitter-was-special-but-its-time

Twitter was special. But it's time to leave

Tweets were always short-lived. Turns out Twitter was too.

PwnAllTheThings

@Homebrewandhacking @tomw How is reboost any different than quote tweet with regard to creating a "main character"?

The problem is that Twitter's algo amplifies controversy. The more people are interacting with something, the more likely it is to show it to others. *That's* what creates the notion of a #Twitter "main character" and should be avoided.

Twitter's ***algo*** is basically, "Hey, there's a fight going on here, and we think you may want to take part!"