I miss quotes, not because I wanna chase clout (who cares, I’m over that in life) but because sometimes I want to boost something up while saying why I think it’s so interesting.
@nathan Agreed. I understand why there’s no quotes. Means we have to find other ways to reference interesting posts. For example, does this work? Here’s the link to yours:
https://breakpoint.cafe/@nathan/109368053215982941
Nathan Lawrence (@[email protected])

I miss quotes, not because I wanna chase clout (who cares, I’m over that in life) but because sometimes I want to boost something up while saying why I think it’s so interesting.

Breakpoint.Café
@nathan Yeah, also a good way to incorporate a joke that’s not mocking or derisive to the poster. However, there’s no easy way to manage the circumstances. Saw a suggestion about being able to wrap it in a content warning that seemed sort of novel, but still seems like a way to point people at someone you don’t like.

@nathan This is absolutely true; I loved adding additional context to things via quotes. I think the solution now is to contextualize in your own way.

I’ll miss them, but I think living without them for a bit makes me realize how unnecessary and toxic they can be

@nathan I get it. I missed Quote reposts too. But reflecting on birdsite, I was once bullied by a famous (left leaning, libertarian) account who quote tweeted to deride me after I politely disagreed with him on something, thus siccing many followers on me.

Mind you, I had another famous amount use old school RT to deliberately mis-quote me in a similar sitn, raising followers’ ire even more. So… bullies gonna bully.

Quote tweets make it too easy to talk about rather than to someone.

@babbage Unfortunately, I don’t think having quoting or not is what will fix this, because the ultimate way of creating this kind of attack tends to involve cutting a person’s own voice off entirely with things like screenshots anyway.

Removing a formal path to remixing and pushing people toward these alternatives removes a path of accountability and easy system for users to trace context if they’re so inclined. I think those tools are really valuable.

@nathan that’s a fair counterpoint. Though even screenshots do add some friction as others have to manually navigate to your account to pile on. But you’re right, being untraceable has definite cons.

As I understand it, the kind of reasons I outlined are ~the explanation behind the Mastodon design decision, and I think will be highly resistant to change. But we’ll see.

@nathan I think the same. I’m pretty sure that quote-toots will be implemented somehow within the network — there are just too many cases where it’s useful.

If I remember correctly, didn’t the #BirdSite start off with simple retweets and quote-tweets were a later feature?

@nathan Yeah, this is a major missing feature for me. I know they’re often used for pile-ons but I QT all the time to express agreement or neutral commentary about something. On Twitter I’d probably be QTing this rather than replying to express my agreement!
@nathan An alternate way of doing it: reply to the original post saying why you think it’s interesting, then boost your reply.
@nathan Totally. I’ve seen a proposal to have the quoted post above the post text, which I like the sound of. On Twitter currently I instinctively tap to open quoted tweets first so I can read/react to them myself before I read the commentary
@nathan @justinesherry I think you can reply to a message, and then boost that reply. It's maybe a bit more awkward 🤔. But at least threads don't get split off from the top (as happens on Twitter).