DrDave

Some of you might be aware that I've been mapping the location and condition of #CofiwchDryweryn murals for the past few years.

I've got a window of opportunity to update the map today, so if you happen to know of any examples that might be new, removed or altered, send them my way.

Here is the link to the map and how it looked when I last updated it about a month ago.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/d/viewer?mid=1huvM2jU-1lEF0u0mGCdrmiA4_scQtUMC&ll=48.11261287547023%2C-45.31905525000002&z=3

Cofiwch Dryweryn mapping project. โ€“ Google My Maps

An attempt to map all existing and recorded examples of murals connected to the Cofiwch Dryweryn 'movement', and monitor the condition of examples. This is a work in progress and will change on a regular basis. We would benefit from additional entries, images and updates. A Welsh language translation of entries would also be welcomed. Queries can be related to [email protected].

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Nov 13, 2022 at 12:37pmWeb
Show threadDrDaveNov 13, 2022
Just to add, many thanks for the boosts on this one - with a Wales wide project like this, and lots of murals in some pretty obscure locations, keeping track of them all is pretty much impossible on my own, this really is a mapping project that can only be sustained with the support of a wider community, so the help is appreciated.
Show threadJayne ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆNov 13, 2022

@DrDaveH

Happy to help ๐Ÿ‘

Weโ€™re #Geocachers so are often found wandering around Wales with our dogs ๐Ÿ—บ๏ธ๐Ÿงญ

Show threadDrDaveNov 13, 2022
@TCMuffin awesome, well, you have the map now so do let me know if you find things that are missing or have changed - even subtle things like tweaking location spots is helpful - I haven't been to all of them,so have not had the chance to confirm locations for a lot of the entries (they're all close, at least, but prefer specific locations when possible).
Show threadJayne ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆNov 13, 2022

@DrDaveH Will do and with accurate coordinates too as I use a Garmin GPSMAPยฎ 66i for @Geocachingโ€ฆ

https://www.garmin.com/en-GB/p/623975/pn/010-02088-02

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Show threadDrDaveNov 13, 2022
@TCMuffin so good ๐Ÿ˜€, I get a lot of updates from people who remember passing one in a car, which leads to a lot of guess work as to exactly where the mural was lol.
Show threadJayne ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆNov 13, 2022
@DrDaveH Iโ€™m happy to revisit nearby locations (weโ€™re in Llandaff) and confirm the coordinates if this helps ๐Ÿค”
Show threadDrDaveNov 13, 2022
@TCMuffin very much so, you can join the unofficial team of mural spotters ๐Ÿ™‚ (that would make about five of you who I know are out there specifically keeping an eye out).
Show threadJayne ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆNov 13, 2022

@DrDaveH Definitely up for this!

Weโ€™re having a @Geocaching day out with our dogs on Thursday/Friday, weather dependent as one of our boys (border collies x Welsh sheepdogs) didnโ€™t get the memo about working dogs and weather ๐Ÿคฆ

Will report back ๐Ÿ‘

Show threadDrDaveNov 13, 2022
@TCMuffin awesome, look forward to the results!
Show threadnyznNov 13, 2022
@DrDaveH https://www.google.com/maps/@52.5713934,-3.7679461,3a,75y,296.1h,79.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLs00WeAm2CqZ5oFJ67F5uw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Bevor Sie zu Google Maps weitergehen

Show threadDrDaveNov 13, 2022
@nyzn thanks for this, I've only ever had close ups of this one, whenever I asked photographers to give me context, it never came. Really useful, diolch.
Show threadGomez  Nov 13, 2022
@DrDaveH
On the underpass behind Blanco's Hotel in Port Talbot
@jaz
Show threadDrDaveNov 13, 2022
@gomez @jaz ha, thank you - do you know when this one first went up (looks a little weathered, so wondering if I've missed a much earlier example)?
Show threadGomez  Nov 13, 2022

@DrDaveH
I don't sorry, I took the image in August when I was in PT delivering a training course at Blanco's.

Maybe @TheBeastOfBaglan can help date it.

@jaz

Show threadDrDaveNov 13, 2022
@gomez @TheBeastOfBaglan @jaz no worries, I always add two dates on the map, one for the first recording, and then the most recent visual condition report - I can always push the first date back if others have the info. Still useful information.
Show threadTheBeastOfBaglanNov 13, 2022
@DrDaveH @gomez @jaz Hi.....by concidence, I posted this murel up here this morning & on the CD FB site! The guy on there asked me for the Google Maps co-ordinates....was it you?
Show threadTheBeastOfBaglanNov 13, 2022
@DrDaveH @gomez @jaz It appreared there in the big rush of them, when they went up all around Cymru....a few years ago!!
Show threadDrDaveNov 13, 2022
@TheBeastOfBaglan @gomez @jaz yep, it's one of the reason's I started to map them, I was curious to track the geographic spread of murals, but also local responses - to see if there was push-back or protection for the new examples. I wrote a chapter on it about a year back, exploring those themes.
Show threadDrDaveNov 13, 2022
@TheBeastOfBaglan ha, possibly - though I know a few of the group members ask now (because I keep on harassing the group for the locations ๐Ÿ˜„ ).
Show threadDrDaveNov 13, 2022
@TheBeastOfBaglan @gomez @jaz all sorted and figured out now - so it was on the map, but just in the wrong place - all tidy now!
Show threadTheBeastOfBaglanNov 13, 2022
@DrDaveH Ah yes..... I see we are both having this same conversation with each other on FB!! hehe๐Ÿ˜‚
Show threadDrDaveNov 13, 2022
@TheBeastOfBaglan I'm clearly chasing this on too many social media platforms (having the same chat about one of these examples over on Twitter as well lol|).
Show threadTheBeastOfBaglanNov 13, 2022
@DrDaveH You map is really good! I havent looked at it properly before!!!
Show threadDrDaveNov 13, 2022
@TheBeastOfBaglan labour of love, been trying to keep a handle on the murals worldwide for the last few years now.
Show threadBazNov 14, 2022
@gomez @DrDaveH @jaz this is the one I'll be passing this morning! I'm glad it has already been mentioned
Show threadPaul H ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บNov 13, 2022
@DrDaveH You have the ones near me (Bancffosfelen and Cross Hands) and last I saw (just a couple of days ago) they're in good condition. I haven't seen the one in Pontiets - I must look out for it.#CofiwchDryweryn
Show threadDrDaveNov 13, 2022
@Henrysbridge many thanks for that - the condition reports are as useful as the new entry reports, always interesting to see whether examples are maintained (or the opposite).
Show threadSue ArcherNov 13, 2022
@DrDaveH We haven't been past it for a few months (we only visit on holiday), but I think I remember one at Halfway, in the middle of this picture, on the B4302 opposite the turn to Cwmdu....
Show threadSue ArcherNov 13, 2022

@DrDaveH In fact here it is. Not a mural, it seems, but a painted board.

https://goo.gl/maps/VH4BsrBTXojFpTiP9

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Show threadDrDaveNov 13, 2022
@suearcher I know the one. Honestly I've held off from adding the boards, for the same reason I haven't included painted rocks in gardens. It's tricky but I took the view that I would record examples painted onto fixed points in the landscape, echoing the original (though I do keep a list of the other less permanent examples as well).
Show threadSue ArcherNov 13, 2022
@DrDaveH Fair enough. In my memory it was painted on a wall, but clearly I was wrong about that!
Show threadDrDaveNov 13, 2022
@suearcher easily done when passing by - for some, the boards are just as important, so there is certainly merit in nothing them when they go up (and, perhaps more importantly, where they go, the geography of these things often being quite sensitive).
Show threadanniemo71Nov 14, 2022

@DrDaveH
There is another in Crosshands, on a wall, at the side of a shop. On the Llandeilo road, almost opposite the Police station.
It's been there for a few years

#CofiwchDryweryn

Show threadDrDaveNov 14, 2022
@anniemo71 Crosshands is on there, but have a close look at the map for me - location might be slightly off if you can't find it easily.
Show threadanniemo71Nov 14, 2022
@DrDaveH
Yes, you are right. Number 9
Don't know why I couldn't see it before. ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ
Show threadDrDaveNov 14, 2022
@anniemo71 cool - you had me worried that I had missed a second one in the area ๐Ÿ™‚.
Show threadanniemo71Nov 14, 2022
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Show threadDJDarrenFeb 11, 2023

LB: This is an absolutely fascinating dive into something of which I was previously completely unaware. I'd never heard of these murals, I'd never heard of the flooding of Tryweryn Valley.

Which is probably because I'm English, and as such know almost nothing of Welsh history, because we're just not taught it.

The Welsh have been treated appallingly by the English. Just like so many other nationalities...

@DrDaveH

Show threadDrDaveFeb 11, 2023
@DJDarren glad to hear it's of interest. Happy to direct you towards some articles (and lighter YouTube stuff) that I've done on the subject.
Show threadDJDarrenFeb 11, 2023
@DrDaveH Yes, I'd like that. Thanks!
Show threadDrDaveFeb 11, 2023
@DJDarren cool - so this is probably the most relevant article on the contemporary tradition: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/354321144_Contemporising_Custom_the_re-imagining_of_the_Mari_Lwyd
Show threadDrDaveFeb 11, 2023
@DJDarren and then this is a very foggy introduction video to another paper: https://youtu.be/GMnUlo7phy4 There are some more videos there exploring the Mari in popular culture as well.
The Mari Lwyd in Lockdown: New Research Project.

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