Something I'm thinking about (will report back later): If your goal was to best preserve US democracy, is a House w/a GOP+1-5 seats or a Dem+1-2 better. This assumes CCM will win NV.

So here's part of my logic: First, the crazies think they can take over.

There's no way the GOPers in the new swing seats will abide by that.

And any GOP majority will be really fragile, far more fragile than the Dems with the same majority.

@emptywheel

But at what cost, for a hypothetical gain in two years? What good and impactful legislation would be lost with a GOP majority? Understanding that this too is hypothetical.

I think the best way to assure that democracy thrives in the US is to show that it *works*. Trust has to be regained between people and in our institutions. If it's all allowed to break, doesn't that just perpetuate the impression that government is an unserious enterprise for unserious people?

@petteriusa A pretty persuasive argument. I think Biden has shown that democracy works.

My hypothesis is that if it can be shown to work WITH THE PARTICIPATION of the GOP, it'd be still better.

Plus, I doubt a GOP majority would stick for 2 years (if it starts with <6 majority).

@emptywheel @petteriusa
My take/hope is that the Moderate house Rs see that Dobbs is unpopular with the people (see numberouse ballot measures) and vote with Ds to codify Roe (assume 51Dem senate, no filibuster) This is strictly a social issue, not financial. Do I have rose colored glasses on?

@TrishMcD1981 @emptywheel @petteriusa

it's very financial- or rather, economic. Lack of abortion access falls heavier on people who can't get to a legal abortion if needed. And the resulting increase in people below poverty level affects programs to help them and health care for them.

and that's just the bare beginning. Lots of educational issues arise - education affects the economy. etc.

NOT "just" social.

@zatkat @emptywheel @petteriusa
Yes. You are correct. What I was trying to convey(and failed) is that the moderate Rs are “typically” financially conservative (will not support govt spend) but socially liberal (support abortion LGBTQ rights etc). IF there are those moderate Rs out there and codifying Roe is strictly social impact bill (no $$ spend) THEN I think/hope it could pass.

@TrishMcD1981 @emptywheel @petteriusa

I see what you mean.

in that environment arguments about economic effects might be useful- as eduction has effect on economy and lack of abortion access has negative effect on education.

I'd look to add what economic arguments I could to the social points.