Arynn
#cloud or on prem.
People have strong opinions on this. All the Gartners of the world show cloud adoption percentages skyrocketing. And it's true, there's more adoption. And yet postgresql lives on. Even more, things like #duckdb are all the rage.
What people need to understand is there can be an increased adoption without a total takover. For now, anyway, life outside of the cloud lives on for many.
Nov 8, 2022 at 12:36amWeb
Show threadJoe ReisNov 8, 2022
@arynn localhost will become the new place to be ;)
Show threadArynnNov 8, 2022
@joereis if you are saying this, that holds a LOT of merit 😅
Show threadTomRampleyNov 8, 2022
@arynn on prem will be the COBOL of the data world. No one will want to learn it, no one will talk about it, it won’t be sexy, but like 70% of actual deployments will rely on it totally.
Show threadArynnNov 8, 2022
@trampley maybe. Unless #duckdb keeps the momentum. That seems like something people want to learn and talk about. Basically SQL light but for analytics.
Show threadRichard StrangeNov 8, 2022
@arynn: Very few cloud migrations I've seen or been involved with have ever moved to a pure cloud architecture, but rather to some form of hybrid solution. While getting the networking, APIs and security right is important, the best implementations are when the data architecture is split appropriately for the business needs - whether that is per component, per row or per attribute. #cloud #cloudmigration #hybridarchitecture
Show threadArynnNov 8, 2022
@StrangeThoughts this is such a great response. I always felt like this was true intuitively but I'm glad that this is actually the case.
Show threadNipsuliNov 8, 2022

@arynn cloud all the way! So much nicer when someone else takes care of the stuff that’s same for everyone; security, failovers, replication

Huge #postgres lover my self, and in previous job migrated pg from aws rds to baremetal for cost reasons… was fun 🤪

Judging by the new releases it seems that #google and #azure do also love postgres!

Show threadJacob MatsonNov 8, 2022
@arynn imo if you go for cloud you can’t hedge by using it as a platform only. You don’t see the advantages that way. Of course, CTOs & CIOs are not super into the idea of using tech that only works on one cloud, which inhibits leaning into the great cloud specific functionality. I’ve seen this exact narrative about lock-in at multiple cos and it really hurts what is possible when building.
Show threadMatt MenzenskiNov 8, 2022
@matsonj @arynn strong agree. I've heard this called "serviceful" architecture - leverage the investments that the cloud providers can make in their products and don't reinvent wheels.
Show threadMatthew MullinsNov 8, 2022

@arynn most enterprises are treating cloud as just another data center. When it comes to data tools, if it doesn’t run within their security context then they don’t want it. In that sense cloud and on-prem is a distinction without a difference.

For those of us that aren’t cloud providers the real differentiator is SaaS vs Deployed, and for the most part deployed is still beating SaaS. I don’t see that changing in the next few years.