the default position of all white people should be:

- Recognising that you're racist
- And that you don't necessarily know how you're racist
- And listening to people who are impacted by racism on the ways you do racist things
- And trying to change

@aurynn I would probably change that to 'of all people'. I was talking to someone a while ago who worked in a middle eastern refugee camp. She said there was a pecking order that strongly depended on how pale your skin was. I'm sure even the people at the top of that pillar experienced racism from white-white people, but that didn't stop them from being racist to people down the chain.
@drV @aurynn Agree. But (always a but)... I think the clue is in the 'pale' as default or elevated for 'superior' just reinforces the 'white'. There is a lot to unpack in non-white racist attitudes (eg caste, colonialism etc) tho. Not something I'm qualified to speak on other than my relatively privileged to date lived experience.

@irix @drV @aurynn what Raj said.

We need to not bring up other racism when someone tries to address white people's racism.

@Br3nda @irix @aurynn I brought it up because there was nothing about the advice in @aurynn's post that was specific to white racism. It would equally apply to Japanese attitudes towards Koreans, Hindutva attitudes towards Muslims, Chinese attitudes towards Black people...
@drV @irix @aurynn we cool. Felt like a topic change.
@Br3nda @irix @aurynn That's fair. I often find myself missing context (and subsequently getting myself into hot water because of it). Generally if I just keep talking it eventually works out okay :P