@susser but yeah, I’d love to be part of an instance that was, broadly speaking, FAccT-y…

@sethlazar My sense is that it's pretty involved—would probably need a team of volunteers (though having some dedicated admins to coordinate would be great!).. Feels like something to explore after the semester ends :)

@susser @sethlazar I also have a sense that disciplinary instances would be a net positive. Would STS/critical tech/FaaCT find a home in hci.social?

@Riedl @sethlazar For me personally, I suspect there's a lot of overlap but it's not a perfect fit. Might come hang out over there until the STS folks put something else together though!

@susser @Riedl @sethlazar @mikarv I'm trying to understand what this provides over and above the FAccT slack instance which I agree is currently not active as a community forum.

@geomblog @susser @sethlazar @mikarv For example I didn't know there was a FaacT slack. My sense is that the communities need to be built where the people want to be. That means a combination of community relevant stuff and cross-over from other aspects of peoples' lives. But I am just guessing.

@Riedl @geomblog @susser @sethlazar We also need to invest our time as scholars in creating sustainable communities, and I think a big part of that is using open, inteoperable technologies that resist closure or disintermediation, and promote community expansion. Slack already is very limited in a free version so can't be built upon easily, and could even restrict further in future. ActivityPub is much more durable.

@mikarv @Riedl @susser @sethlazar very much agree. I have been thinking about whether this is a formal role for someone in the FAccT organization, with volunteers coming from the communities. I think MD4SG has done a good job in this regard (albeit via Slack)

@geomblog @Riedl @susser @sethlazar The always-on aspect of Slack puts off a lot of people too, and people from disciplines without labs or many postdocs/students don't use so much. For instant-messaging stuff, Riot.im/Matrix could be more sustainable. If Mastodon would be used that way, needs more. BUT you can follow other ActivityPub sites here, e.g. you can follow something a bit like a subreddit on Lemmy and receive the threads, e.g. @privacy, so opportunities for group organising