We've militarized the police, but without any of the accountability that the military has. If you're in the military and run away or don't engage the enemy, you're court-martialed or worse by your commanding officer.

The Supreme Court ruled that the cops are under no obligation to protect you. So consider that when you consider good guys with guns will save you. They will do nothing and tase you in you make them look bad.

@digisho
When people cite the 2nd. Amendment… “A Well Regulated Militia” they should understand that it means exactly that… “Well Regulated”

@rKevin it says for the purpose of or being necessary for, so for such time the well regulated militia is needed. You can be called to arms. The same way a militia was formed to fight the British, people often brought their own guns.

However, I'm specifically talking about relying on police for safety, when those police will stand outside a classroom too scared to go in while children are bleeding out and dying, because they might get shot. In a military, dereliction at least has consequences.

@digisho Yes I understood your message., I guess I got sidetrack on my point.

I was referring to the people that take out their 2nd Amendment card to state their message when it says right there in the Constitution that it should be well regulated.

With the exception of weapons of war that shouldn’t be on the hands or civilians… for people to be able to buy guns there is a need for a background check, mental health check, waiting period, etc. so guns wont fall on the wrong hands.

@rKevin I think there should be required training that is provided by government similar to military or basic safety training and legal defense education to purchase certain classifications of firearms. I say free because you don't want it to be something only the very rich or affluent can afford.

Passing that training world be a good litmus test.

@rKevin voter IDs despite states like Colorado requiring it are often criticized because they discriminate and create a barrier against a right. So the testing requirement likely won't hold up since it will be argued to be a restriction or barrier to exercise a right. But I still think it's a reasonable one and why I think it should be free to public. There's usually better stats when gun owners are properly trained.
@rKevin also it's with mentioning AR-15s are semi automatic and aren't weapons of war in the sense that they are the civilian hobbled version which is just popular cause it's cheap, reliable, and well designed and uses a readily available cheap round, it's the Honda Civic of rifles. The military version is the M-16, assault/automatic weapons have been illegal for sometime. It's like the difference between a civilian Humvee and the fully armored one. A semiautomatic pistol is as dangerous.
@rKevin they'll make AR-15s illegal and someone will buy a SCAR or AR-10 or switch to a pair of semi automatic pistols. Or just buy a rifle with wooden stock that looks less scary but can shoot the same or more powerful rounds.