@n9unx yeah, we're very fragmented where I work - the full time employees all went through rounds of training in SAFe, but only 20% of our IT is actual employees - everything else is contractors, so for a lot of the projects its whatever method the contracting company of the day wants to use for the given project. I actaully just got out of our IT group and took a different role in the company because of all the associated non-sense :-)