SandraApr 15, 2022
@silmathoron I wrote a little bit mroe about that sentiment in the linked post: https://idiomdrottning.org/election-strategy

I want the fachos to lose resoundingly.
Election Strategy

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@Sandra that's the thing -- even a 90-10 result in favour of Macron would not be a "resounding defeat of the fascists", because the fascists are also in Macron's team (Blanquer, Darmanin, Castaner,..).

This run off is fascist v. fascist

Now I do agree that Le Pen will be way worse (not just because she deals directly with neonazi militias) and I do hope she'll be denied the presidency.

But i also understand what @silmathoron is saying about the thinnest victory margin possible: a big score in the run off would be immediately spun by macron's team as a nonnegotiable mandate to carry out his policies, like it was for Chirac in 2002. This is also very dangerous, more so since Chirac maliciously synchronised both executive and legislative elections to happen simultaneously. Least bad outcome this year is a thin margin victory and a hung parliament.

Apr 15, 2022 at 9:32amWeb
Show threadSandraApr 15, 2022
@codeforchaos

"I do agree that Le Pen will be way worse" — and that is the only thing on the table for this particular runoff election. There is no longer a way to get a good candidate elected. It's deadly poison (REM) vs even more disgusting deadly poison (RN).

"Least bad outcome this year is a thin margin victory and a hung parliament." — I do not co-sign that statement.

It's… again, if it were IRV, this would not even be an issue. This is the problem with the human compiler at work. We're asked to manually do the robots' job and it's so distasteful. Macron won over the good candidates. That sucked. That was a tragedy (and will be, throughout the rest of this cycle, until 2027). Now a writhing corpse called RN has flopped its way onto the table. Kick it off.

(Also let's keep working for election reform because yes, this system sucks.)

@silmathoron
Show threadSandraApr 15, 2022
@codeforchaos

I gave you a bad answer because I didn't acknowledge or validate your point about mandate strength. Yes, you'e right, that's a problem, a really big problem, both an optics problem and a practical legislative power problem. I can't solve it. I just think that the other possibility (a relatively higher proportion of votes going to RN) is a much bigger problem.

@silmathoron