@jch

“add opportunity to create the bridge not only from the matrix but from the xmpp conference too” is listed under “future plans” 💔

Also log4j shenanigans. But I’ll add a link to it, thank you.

@Sandra I understand now. You want to be able to initiate the bridge outside of Matrix.

@jch

In other words, I want to be able to use a normal email, IRC, or XMPP client (either is fine, listed in order of fave (email) to least fave (XMPP)) to join any Matrix room or talk to any Matrix user. (Willing to install a gateway server to do so, and even register an account (manually or through autopuppeting). The point is that I wanna use the cozy comforts of my familiar clients.)

There are many bridges that work in the other direction, that lets Matrix users join our rooms (if they’re willing to jump through hoops and install bridges and register accounts, but they at least get to use the cozy comfort of their favorite Matrix clients). That’s great for them. I’m looking for the reverse.

(Not particularly urgently, which is why I’m not working on one myself.)

@jch One of the reasons I am looking for the reverse is that I (misunderstandingly?) thought that that was one of the promises of Matrix, as it was for XMPP and its wonderful gateways. Unfortunately, [insert xkcd standards here].
Standards

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@Sandra Thanks for bringing this up, it isn't something I had considered important (and still don't, mostly, ha ha)... But, you brought me out of the rabbit hole I was in looking at another questionable but needed standard protocol called WebFinger: https://www.techabulary.com/w/webfinger/
WebFinger - Techabulary

Techabulary - Packetizer's Technology Dictionary: WebFinger

@jch ActivityPub (which we are talking over right now) does use WebFinger.

@jch For example,

wget -qO- 'https://don.bitma.st/.well-known/webfinger?resource=acct:[email protected]'
@Sandra Yeah, I knew Mastodon supported it, but not ActivityPub itself. I'm keen to have it as a separate service integrated to my OS/LDAP directory, etc--or worst case there is a WordPress or similar CMS plugin. Interesting.
ActivityPub

Connect your site to the Open Social Web and let millions of users follow, share, and interact with your content from Mastodon, Pixelfed, and more.

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@Sandra Yeah, I've seen that--not bad, but further fractures user management. I guess Nextcloud supports it natively, so that would overlap my LDAP directory already.