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Tin Bee 🥫🐝@lis once upon a time in the uk public transport was mostly run as a public service. Then, in the 80s, Margaret Thatcher decided that privatisation would benefit everyone. Dozens of low quality companies popped up with a bus or two and cherry picked the routes that made the most profit. They were all bought up, over time, by a handful of companies who run most of the bus services now.
leah & tigers & bears, oh my!
Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKReading and Ipswich still have buses run by the Council and their services aren't too bad; but it is hard to find a bus later in the evening or and in suburban/semi rural areas of Mid Suffolk, Babergh and East Suffolk they are less frequent - as are trains, further reinforcing car dependency (when I lived in Reading I didn't even need a car and only got one a few years after moving to Suffolk)
Deadly HeadshotI left Reading in 2006 (and was cycling more often since 2001 so rarely used buses), I think drivers still gave change in 2001 (although it was more common to use cash for lots of things back then). They were friendlier as well - although driving in Reading isn't pleasant for anybody TBH, another reason why I didn't do it when I lived there...
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touch fluffy tail@lis wtf is a fare zone
Nut-free Hyolobrika@lis @qorg (repeated)
The thing is with taxes is it means that people who don't want to use the service must pay for it. Fares are much fairer IMO. They also mean that the service can be managed in a decentralised fashion by companies (preferably non-profits) rather than by governments.
I've written about this in earlier posts, which I can link to if you like.
The thing is with taxes is it means that people who don't want to use the service must pay for it. Fares are much fairer IMO. They also mean that the service can be managed in a decentralised fashion by companies (preferably non-profits) rather than by governments.
I've written about this in earlier posts, which I can link to if you like.
Inga stands with 🇺🇦 🇵🇸@lis especially when I look at Berlin. At least here in Nurnberg I can get a systemwide monthly pass for 105€ that covers a significant chunk of Bavaria (up to 100km from Nurnberg) and is good for two adults (also their bikes and/or children)...
meower@lis Reminds me of one shitpost I made while being furious at the shitty OV-chipkaart clone my local government forces me to use. The damn thing doesn't work despite more than five years passing from it's introduction.
Also you can't beat 56 fare zones we have here (I know, know - The Netherlands an Switzerland, but here the unified transport doesn't cover the whole country).
Also you can't beat 56 fare zones we have here (I know, know - The Netherlands an Switzerland, but here the unified transport doesn't cover the whole country).
rijn@lis looks very similar to Apartheid era spacial layout. Move the poorer people further away from the opportunities to keep them in a poverty trap.
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@lis SO FECKING TRUE!
More nations should be like #Luxembourg and cancel #fares for #PublicTransport entirely!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feCQPD9DSOA
The country where all public transit is free
ferret@lis this looks like it's based on a Magna Carta Party leaflet. But it could be any sovcit trash l guess
Shadowcloud🐲 🔞🐾
@lis The right one is here in Germany. It includes the capital Berlin (I lived there for four years) and the surrounding area, which is quite a huge area. The inner three rings (Brown, Blue, and Green) is just the city. The rest is another federal state that spans around the city, which all have their own fares, but are combined under the VBB, which costs the same everywhere in that area. And to go through the whole states AND Berlin for a whole day, it costs like 20 Bucks per person, which is actually pretty easy to understand.
Berlin's Fares are actually all quite easy to understand as there are no huge differences in the layout of the fare zones. They're basically three circles, starting from the middle.
I am now living close to Munich and their Fare Zones are an actual nightmare. It starts off with a (kind of) circle structure in the middle of the city, but then quickly turns into a clusterfuck of fare zones flowing into each other at many places. For some destinations, you are crossing 4 zones without even stopping in any of them, and yet you still have to pay for them.
To be fair, Munich's zones extend far out from the actual city into the very rural almost countryside parts of Bavaria, but it is still very unintuitive to understand.
Nevertheless, I get the point of it. It's nothing more than profit-oriented. Screw the customer.
@Shadowcloud thanks for mansplaining to me the meme i created myself and the public transport system i've used for 23 out of 27 years of my life
nobody asked for that
nobody asked for that
@lis Okay calm down, no need to be so angry about it. I was just trying to give my opinion on it...
cafkafk@[email protected] this unironically and like literally unironically this is the way
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