I think I've used Firefox for about 17 years. Most of the time it's been my main and default browser. During that time, I worked for the Mozilla Foundation for 3 years.

So, given the recent news, it really pains me to even think about switching to Chromium. But, miracles aside, I can't see how Firefox as a browser is going to survive in 2021 with its current market share and resourcing levels 😔

@dajbelshaw hmm seems like Google extended the deal with Mozilla until 2023 with some $450 million per year... you don't think that makes them healthy enough in the short term after this restructuring while trying to get some new revenue streams?

@markosaric I didn't see that news, but:

1. People currently see Mozilla as the champion of open source, privacy, and free software

2. Google uses Firefox as a get-out-of-jail-free card for antitrust cases

Given the last 10 years of failed projects outside of Firefox (and the increasing failure of Firefox itself) I can't see a path to profitability without completely selling out.

@dajbelshaw thanks for sharing! hoping they figure things out because if mozilla/firefox fail things may get much worse for the health of the web overall

the news about the new deal is here https://www.zdnet.com/article/sources-mozilla-expected-to-extend-its-google-search-deal/

Sources: Mozilla expected to extend its Google search deal | ZDNet

Google to remain default search engine in Firefox for the next three years.

@markosaric Ah, thanks!

This bit concerns me, and like others have commented, makes me think that Mozilla might discontinue Gecko in future:

"However, several sources have confirmed that the organization is sound financially, and the layoffs were part of a restructuring of its core business, with Mozilla moving away from its current role of internet standards steward and experimental approach to its product catalog to more commercially-viable offerings that generate revenues on their own."

@dajbelshaw @markosaric To be fair, they acted more as a web standards stalwart. There is more to the internet still.

Ugh, I want to write about *that* but I have a ton of other things to do.

@unwesen Yeah, we can't rely on one (or a just a handful) of orgs to keep the web open

@markosaric