@JoeMontana yeah obviously i know about terfs? i was telling you about them

we're not a threat to your children. trans people. we're not a threat. we're absolutely harmless

terfs, on the other hand, are a huge threat to your children. you seem to be aware of this already though

@00dani
You say your not a threat, that's why we don't have a problem.
Maybe you should tell the OP what a TERF is, and to practice what they preach.

@JoeMontana um

op knows what a terf is too. you came onto their post entitled "to terfs", apparently to complain about trans people. why did you do that, since you're not a terf?

@00dani
Where is the original post?
I didn't complain about trans people, I complained that someone laying down rules was not prepared to follow them themselves. I take on hypocrisy when I see it.

@JoeMontana i mean, the rule alicia put down was this?

Or as the communist leader Mao once said, if you aren't educated on a subject, you don't get to speak on it.

you then spoke on the subject of trans people, and aptly demonstrated that you aren't educated on the subject. then you went into how you apparently don't want us near your children, for some reason?

alicia's quite happy to follow their own rule. they're a lot more educated on transness than you are, which entitles them to speak about it. obviously.

@00dani
A part of a post is not the post, show it all.
Also, show my reply, not your editorial of it.

@JoeMontana sure. here's the post.

Or as the communist leader Mao once said, if you aren't educated on a subject, you don't get to speak on it.

Trans people know what it means to be trans. You clearly don't. So shut up and stop trying to speak over us.

you said this

Peeing in a room, is that all? Just keep the door shut and we'll get along fine.

and i pointed out this

terfs are constantly lobbying to make us illegal. also peeking under the closed doors of bathroom stalls to make sure we aren't there

and then you said this

Like I said in the reply to the initial post (which was removed), nobody cares what you do, nobody is trying to make you illegal, just keep away from my Children and we'll get along fine

which is you speaking with apparent authority on transness, while apparently being completely unaware that

  • people are trying to make us illegal
  • we're not a threat to your children
  • holy shit
  • @00dani You left out most of the conversation, the bits that suit you obviously.
    Alicia said more than that. Among other things I was directly called a TERF.
    I only speak for myself here, its my rule.
    When did peeing come up?
    Did you also delete a reply from you that your quoting here?
    I hate being manipulated and lied about, you have no idea what kind of karma your making.

    The whole thing is full of misquotes and omissions, it would be thrown out of court.

    @JoeMontana alicia's posts are still there, and they're public. you can go look at 'em if you want. here's you:

    So by the same rules, trans people don't get to tell anyone else how they should be

    and here's them:

    Thank you, TERF, for that ultimate truth. I'll be sure to pass it along at our next "how to get the cis to obey us" meeting.

    Now please stop trying to imply we're oppressive towards cis people for our demands of... checks notes wanting to pee in the same rooms as others of our gender instead of those opposite our gender.

    and that's when you said this:

    Peeing in a room, is that all? Just keep the door shut and we'll get along fine.

    to which i pointed out:

    terfs are constantly lobbying to make us illegal. also peeking under the closed doors of bathroom stalls to make sure we aren't there

    and i'm sure you remember the rest, since i just quoted it moments ago

    @00dani another thing, when you say that I "speak with apparent authority on transness" you are wrong on 2 counts,
    1. your statement is an assumption
    2. I never spoke about transness

    @JoeMontana no, my statement is not an assumption. this post, from you:

    Like I said in the reply to the initial post (which was removed), nobody cares what you do, nobody is trying to make you illegal, just keep away from my Children and we'll get along fine

    is speaking with apparent authority on transness. you are talking about transness, and you are doing so with the impression of authority

    now, you might actually be an authority, in which case the impression is apt. that wouldn't make "apparent authority" an assumption though, since authorities often speak with apparent authority 

    regardless, you don't seem to know what you're talking about, which suggests you aren't an authority on transness

    @00dani I say assumption, you say impression, either way its wrong because I never spoke about trans. How are you not getting that? Is there a specific reason your stopping me from hanging up my laundry tonight?

    And Alicia's posts are not available to me, so they are strictly not "public" in the broad sense

    @JoeMontana so when you said "nobody cares what you do, nobody is trying to make you illegal"..... what did you mean by you if not trans people? or were you actually talking about transness after all?

    and uh. the posts are on the public internet. you can go look at them in a normal web browser 

    @00dani I was talking to the person who made the post, trans or not, about their double standards of rules for others but not follow them as self.

    Does this sound familiar?
    "Please interact and get to know us before sending follow requests."
    Its a direct quote from Alicia's profile
    Needless to say I won't be sending a follow request, but is that quote an open invitation or not?

    @JoeMontana alicia's following the rules. they're educated on transness, primarily since they are trans, and they spoke about it. i'm also trans and as a result reasonably well-educated on transness, and i spoke about it too.

    meanwhile, you responded to me accurately pointing out that "terfs are constantly lobbying to make us illegal" with "nobody's trying to make you illegal, just keep away from my Children and we'll get along fine". this is in fact obviously said in reference to trans people - and it's blatantly ignorant, violating alicia's rule as presented in their original post

    their rule is reasonable. they're following it, and i am too. why aren't you?

    @00dani What I said was in reference to hypocrites.
    The op is aimed at radical feminists and after my initial reply, instead of educating me, Alicia went on the offensive and decided I was attacking all trans people.
    @JoeMontana seems like they made the right decision, since you decided you don't want us near your children

    @00dani
    You cannot have a rule against people being ignorant when you fail to educate them.

    And by the way, 60 million people were killed under Mao's reign. That's who wrote your rule in the op, didn't you know that?

    @JoeMontana you didn't reply asking for education. you replied asking for those uppity trans people to shut up and respect cis authority. we'd have been happy to answer questions if you'd asked. (politely, of course.)
    @00dani
    That's a total lie

    @JoeMontana nah, it's true. here's precisely what you said.

    So by the same rules, trans people don't get to tell anyone else how they should be