Holy shit, Samsung Smart TVs straight up send "snippets" of things that you watch back home to "to provide you with customized Smart TV experiences".

https://www.samsung.com/us/account/privacy-policy/

Search that page for the text: "Your Smart TV transfers video snippets or TV tuner information in order to determine the programs watched."

#infosec

Privacy Policy - SAMSUNG

Privacy Policy - SAMSUNG

@mike

i wonder if that includes stuff you watch from an attached USB drive?

> cues up 24/7 DBZ Abridged marathon

@mike @vfrmedia sadly not surprised. Other makers (Vizio notably) have openly done that for a while.

The only large maker I'm aware of that doesn't (yet) is Sony, and I'm sure that's just a matter of time.

Blackholing the thing's MAC and using it as a dumb monitor is advised.

@Calcifer @mike @vfrmedia what about LG?

@tekhelet LivePlus feature spies on you. So far, they do let you turn it off in settings at least, with no indication so far that the setting is untrustworthy

@mike @vfrmedia

@mike basically they admit to sending a stream of screenshots to analyze and sell. If this is the future, I think the term 'Luddite' is something to be proud of.
@mike ehhh....yeah cuz I want my niece's dance recital to be transferred

@mike Buying a smart TV is a really dumb idea. But it seems the industry won't let us be smarter than their TVs.

It seems the next best option is to never connect your television to a network, though I wonder how long it will be until tv manufacturers force you to connect it at least once on initial setup before letting you use it.

In any case I have resolved to never buy another "television", and search for a truly " dumb" large format monitor or panel display.

@mike I'm very happy with mine and my mom's dumb TVs and my Nintendo Switch which I'll just dock in to watch YouTube on either TV
@mike stop talking about "smart" TVs, those aren't smart, they are just spying.

@mike you can disable a good bit of the telemetry from the developer/debug menu. Different Samsung smart TVs have different methods of accessing that menu, but this helped me:

https://hardmasterreset.com/how-to-factory-reset-your-samsung-smart-tv/

This will also allow you to reenable Bluetooth, since Samsung oh-so-kindly disabled it with a recent update.

Fair warning - you could brick your TV doing this (something that I never thought I'd say)

How To Factory Reset Your Samsung Smart TV - Hard Master Reset

The below procedure will give you a guideline on how you ca reset your Samsung Smart TV. The procedure is not really hard and you don’t require any expert knowledge to be able to effect it. It is a really simple procedure and you will have your TV factory reset in no time. It requires …

Hard Master Reset

@mike @vfrmedia @Calcifer @msh @mbybee
It starts to be well studied by the academic community, e.g. https://arxiv.org/abs/1911.03447

And these 3 papers presented by A. Narayanan (Princeton) @random_walker

When we watch TV, our TVs watch us back and track our habits. This practice has exploded recently since it hasn’t faced much public scrutiny...

πŸ¦πŸ”—: https://nitter.net/random_walker/status/1177570679232876544#m

For the general public to understand it and feel concerned, it will take some time πŸ˜•

#surveillance #privacy #freedom #tracking

The TV is Smart and Full of Trackers: Towards Understanding the Smart TV Advertising and Tracking Ecosystem

Motivated by the growing popularity of smart TVs, we present a large-scale measurement study of smart TVs by collecting and analyzing their network traffic from two different vantage points. First, we analyze aggregate network traffic of smart TVs in-the-wild, collected from residential gateways of tens of homes and several different smart TV platforms, including Apple, Samsung, Roku, and Chromecast. In addition to accessing video streaming and cloud services, we find that smart TVs frequently connect to well-known as well as platform-specific advertising and tracking services (ATS). Second, we instrument Roku and Amazon Fire TV, two popular smart TV platforms, by setting up a controlled testbed to systematically exercise the top-1000 apps on each platform, and analyze their network traffic at the granularity of the individual apps. We again find that smart TV apps connect to a wide range of ATS, and that the key players of the ATS ecosystems of the two platforms are different from each other and from that of the mobile platform. Third, we evaluate the (in)effectiveness of state-of-the-art DNS-based blocklists in filtering advertising and tracking traffic for smart TVs. We find that personally identifiable information (PII) is exfiltrated to platform-related Internet endpoints and third parties, and that blocklists are generally better at preventing exposure of PII to third parties than to platform-related endpoints. Our work demonstrates the segmentation of the smart TV ATS ecosystem across platforms and its differences from the mobile ATS ecosystem, thus motivating the need for designing privacy-enhancing tools specifically for each smart TV platform.

@mike I still only have older lcd TVs and am not looking forward to having to replace them at some point.
@mike mine was disappointed with me when I didn't connect it to my WiFi
@mike This shocks you?! ;)
@mike
I installed a pihole at home and saw that my Sony TV makes more than 1500 requests every day sending some stuff to Sony and other ones to Netflix given that its embedded with that model of TV ... Everything is blocked now