trans ppl: *make a joke dunking on cis ppl using transphobic logic against them*
cis ppl: i.....am offended and ive never been so oppressed in my entire life

@bewitchyourmind I'm literally screaming

cc @citrustwee

(cw: screenshot dunks sorta, just funny tho)

@jacethechicken @bewitchyourmind @citrustwee tbh just telling them that cis wasn't a slur instead of feeding the drama would have been nice. as someone said "if you aren't educating your normies, someone else will". this is how people become redpillers.
i don't expect trans people to educate every single cis person, but if someone planted the wrong idea in an uninformed cis's head, you should at least not reinforce it by insulting them for falling for it.

@grainloom @bewitchyourmind @citrustwee I'm not ""feeding the drama,"" I'm fucking with him cuz it's fun to turn terf logic against people.

queer people being mean doesn't create redpillers, they were garbage to begin with and were just trying to seem nice. if it just takes someone insulting you for being cis to turn you into a misogynist, transphobic shithead, you were a shithead already

@jacethechicken @bewitchyourmind @citrustwee I was talking about the posts in the screenshots, not you.
All I'm saying is, instead of being dismissive because someone misunderstood what connotations "cis" has, they could have just said, "don't worry, it's not a slur".
That's it.
@grainloom @jacethechicken they very well know its not a slur. it has never been used as a slur. they want to blab their mouth as if theyre oppressed because they hate trans people. same thing goes with white supremacists who think "jews and hispanics are taking over!!" they know thats not happening, they intentionally drive this narrative. they know this.

@bewitchyourmind @jacethechicken I think you underestimate how effectively people can lie to themselves....
or how effectively they can be lied to.

Surely everyone also knows mediums are liars? And that the Earth is round?

@grainloom @jacethechicken when people are like this they have no intent of changing their internal narrative and frankly it's extremely annoying and naive for you to think so
@bewitchyourmind @jacethechicken sorry but I don't trust your judgement on this, people with far worse opinions have changed for the better. and even if you think they won't change, others who are reading this could see the insults and side with them. a debate is more about the audience than your opponent.
@grainloom @jacethechicken If you want to take on that responsibility, by all means. I've tried that route and no one changed (surprise!) and by my means they just out their fascist bigoted views faster. If you want to be the spokesperson """respectable trans TM"" up there with Jenner or whoever else sympathizes with fascists, feel free but that aint me.
@bewitchyourmind @jacethechicken I do actually try to do that. But you didn't address the "debating for the audience" part. Or you did with the "no one changed" because you could somehow track what everyone who read your post thought before and after???
@grainloom I wasnt referring to this. Quite frankly I do not care. My general rule is if you think calling cis people stinky is oppression by now, I'm not trying to change your mind.
@bewitchyourmind Then maybe just block them instead of feeding the fire? That seems healthier for everyone involved.
@bewitchyourmind Or you can talk smack about them before blocking buuuut I'm not sure if that doesn't just make things worse. Uggh idk. I guess I hope you are right.
@grainloom im fine doing what im doing but thanks for the advice