Free Pietje 🇵🇸 🍉Feb 17, 2019

On  @SamHarrisOrg said:
"Welcome to the panopticon...
China becomes an episode of Black Mirror"
and shared this article:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-18/china-social-credit-a-model-citizen-in-a-digital-dictatorship/10200278

to which my response was:
"Give it 5-10 years, then we'll have it too, but with better marketing, but effectively similar.
IIRC Eindhoven has a system (in pilot?) 'similar' as shown in the head picture (Person of Interest style) ... for a snitch city project. Fighting crime and/or terrorism will be used too"

Leave no dark corner

Dandan Fan's every move will soon be watched and judged by her government, and she's happy about that. "Social credit" will unite Big Brother and big data to coerce more than a billion people.

ABC News
Show threadFree Pietje 🇵🇸 🍉Feb 19, 2019

It looks like (especially) Barcelona and Amsterdam at least have some sensible approach wrt 'smart cities':
https://decorrespondent.nl/8977/zo-voorkomen-we-dat-onze-steden-veranderen-in-laboratoria-voor-techbedrijven/130639713578-4459edc3
(dutch)

Toronto OTOH, holy shit.
https://theintercept.com/2018/11/13/google-quayside-toronto-smart-city/

“The genesis of the thinking for Sidewalk Labs came from Google’s founders getting excited thinking of ‘all the things you could do if someone would just give us a city and put us in charge’” - Eric Schmidt

Toronto is getting everything you'd expect when you collaborate with Google:
a dystopian nightmare

Zo voorkomen we dat onze steden veranderen in laboratoria voor techbedrijven

In Amsterdam en Barcelona wordt een nieuw soort slimme stad gebouwd. Een waar burgers – niet de techbedrijven – aan zet zijn.

Show threadFree Pietje 🇵🇸 🍉Feb 19, 2019

Came to that article from The Intercept from https://theintercept.com/2019/01/28/google-alphabet-sidewalk-labs-replica-cellphone-data/ which was linked in the article from De Correspondent.

"No Google data is used." claims Bowden from Sidewalk Labs
Further down the article:
"data is sourced from 'Android Phones and Google apps.'" and "based off of Google data."
Who would've thought Google is lying ...

Relevance for this thread:
'Smart Cities' is better marketing.

If you're not careful like Barcelona & Amsterdam, you'll get your panopticon.

Google’s Sidewalk Labs Plans to Package and Sell Location Data on Millions of Cellphones

Google's sibling company Sidewalk Labs offers planning agencies the ability to model an entire city's patterns of movement.

Show threadSosthène the Zealot
@FreePietje just wait next time they'll come back with a better marketing
Feb 19, 2019 at 6:10pmWeb
Show threadFree Pietje 🇵🇸 🍉Feb 19, 2019
@Sosthene haha, yeah. He probably assumed he would be able to get away with it. Troubling thing is, that he usually indeed would have.
The Intercept (and De Correspondent) tend to do some actual journalistic work instead of just copy-n-pasta a press release.