perfect 🐰 foreverJan 16, 2019
always remember that a solution is only as good as vendor acceptance.

for there to be one true future dialect of AP, it must be accepted by implementations.

I find it unlikely that whatever cwebber proposes to do will be accepted, because it will probably bring us deeper into LDP instead of moving us away.
Show threadperfect 🐰 forever
also before lamenting cwebber with praise, remember that he is directly responsible for security being non-normative in ActivityPub.

I'm not trying to rip on him, he is very smart, but intelligence doesn't translate to good, safe and secure specifications on it's own. the W3C linked data platform vision is dangerous in and of itself from a security POV.

I am very skeptical that he can unify both sides of the split, the ones who care about safety and the ones who like the convience of JSON-LD and LDP technologies in general
Jan 16, 2019 at 9:06pmWeb
Show threadDennis SchubertJan 16, 2019
@kaniini keep in mind that the time available to working groups is limited, and if you have such a controversial topic with opinions that really don't align, it's hard to find agreement on something to write into a spec within that limited timeframe the working group has available.
Show threadAemon TargaryenJan 16, 2019

@kaniini

Intelligence doesn't prevent you from taking unintelligent decisions, as Dostoievski more or less put it on "Crime and punishment".

Today I read the last post by Dennis Schubert and started to understand the critics.

Show threadBob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅Jan 16, 2019
@kaniini I think we just need to replace W3C. Have a Fediverse Foundation or something like that which updates the protocol documentation. Give the people developing AP based servers edit permissions.
Show threadperfect 🐰 foreverJan 17, 2019
@bob precisely. I hope that perhaps feneas (started by diaspora) can provide needed leadership for this, or perhaps Pleroma.
Show threadhttps://v2.jacky.wtf/Jan 17, 2019
@bob @kaniini right. I think FENAS is trying to get to this
Show threadperfect 🐰 foreverJan 17, 2019
@jalcine @bob

yes but right now they are largely diaspora centric. that's going to be a challenge to bring AP implementors into the fold...