always remember "punishable with a fine" means "legal for rich people"
@scarlett some socialist utopias scale their fines by income, so that a rich fuck running a red light with his tesla can pay 80000€ for that
@meena @scarlett
Those places do exits, but those are still capitalist states, just augmented with some degree of reason.
@scarlett my favourite thing is fines expressed as a proportion of income or wealth.

Consider: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1759791.stm
@scarlett yeah damn straight. As long as fines are not scaled to income we are in a grossly inequitable system that disproportionately punishes those who are more vulnerable. Makes me really mad thinking about it.