EdenAug 20, 2018

[no comment, for purposes of minimal labouring/#data gifting]

#dataaslabour

Show threadEdenAug 20, 2018

okay okay, maybe i need to say a bit more about this. basically - surveillance capitalism is bad, and the platform economy that is increasingly dominant is bad new. BUT i don't think data is labour. maybe I'm wrong though?!?

#dataaslabour

Show threadAral BalkanAug 20, 2018

@eevb You’re not wrong. Data about us, if you have enough of it (and the right algorithms) starts to approach us (to extrapolate: “data about people is people”). Those who harbour this “we should be paid for our data” trope don’t seem to understand (or maybe they do) that they’re saying “let’s sell ourselves”.

Welcome to Mastodon, by the way :)

Show threadEden
@aral thank you! I was reading yours and Laura's work just yesterday :) were you at FutureFest?
Aug 20, 2018 at 6:58pmWeb
Show threadAral BalkanAug 20, 2018
@eevb Yep, we were. (Although they put the football on at the same time as my talk so… let’s just say I’m not happy with them and leave it at that.) :)
Show threadEdenAug 20, 2018
@aral ah. yes. so um, can confirm i did not hear your talk... did not watch football either, but other talks that day which had been on similar areas (supposedly) were a bit weak and i needed to be somewhere else...
Show threadAral BalkanAug 20, 2018
@eevb They posted a video but didn’t edit in the slides (why am I not surprised?). I might edit a copy properly and release it. Will let you know if I do :)
Show threadEdenAug 21, 2018
@aral that would be cool to do! would hopefully end up reaching more people that way anyway.
Show threadAral BalkanAug 20, 2018
@eevb Just out of curiosity, what do you do? For someone professing ignorance on the subject, you seem anything but ignorant on it :)
Show threadEdenAug 21, 2018
@aral sorry, domestic labour and work called! will get back to you this evening :)
Show threadAral BalkanAug 21, 2018
@eevb Of course, no rush; this isn’t IM :)