Software Archaeologist> make a forge
> close the forge
> want to buy github
Rysiekúr (old account)@dashie MS wants to buy GitHub?
Oh boy.
@rysiek rumors for now, but lol yeah
FLOSS community:
> hey let's put all our eggs in this one GitHub basket
> what could possibly go wrong
> GitHub is so convenient
Microsoft:
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Carl Chenet@rysiek @dashie haha so true. I wrote an article about The Github threat https://carlchenet.com/the-github-threat/
The Github threat - Carl Chenet's Blog
Many voices arise now and then against risks linked to the Github use by Free Software projects. Yet the infatuation for the collaborative forge of the Octocat Californian start-ups doesn’t seem to fade away. These recent years, Github and its services take an important role in software engineering as they are seen as easy to …
Bernie@codewiz @dashie There is some talk about federated issues on Gitlab: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/44486
GitHub on the other hand clearly focuses in locking you in. If not with git history, then with issues, pull requests, wikis, and all the rest.
@codewiz @dashie hosting their own instance is not vulnerable to corporate takeover of the code hosting platform and sudden changes of policies.
It is not vulnerable to outright censorship: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/12/14/1618239/github-takes-down-satirical-c-plus-equality-language
We may discuss whether the project taken down was "valuable" or not, but the point stands -- GitHub should not have such a power. GitLab does not, for the self-hosted instances.
GitHub Takes Down Satirical 'C Plus Equality' Language - Slashdot
FooAtWFU writes "Some clowns and jokers over at 4chan thought it would be a funny idea to put together a web page for a programming language named 'C Plus Equality' as a parody of feminism, dismissing OOP as 'objectifying' and inheritance as "a tool of the patriarchy". But this parody was apparently...
@codewiz @dashie comparing a solution you can self-host with a fully centralized solution is, I feel, disingenuous.
Of course we should have *more* implementations (and we do, actually), but these are problems on two different levels.
I'd like to see federated issues/pull requests between git-hosting instances thouhg.
@rysiek @dashie However, I feel that the git hosting part of GitLab is secondary to the social aspects.
Even if you could self-host Facebook, you'd still want to be on the instance where all your friends are.
I feel that GitLab self-hosting makes sense only for very large projects like GNOME and Freedesktop, and even those incur a small loss of visibility for not being on the larger GitLab instance.
Nick Thomas@rysiek @codewiz @dashie I wrote up https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ee/issues/4517 some time ago. I think it's viable, and quite possibly fun to do.
@lupine @rysiek @dashie Awesome proposal, and it seems feasible too!
Some time ago, an old friend of mine implemented a more radical approach to distributed git hosting: https://blog.printf.net/articles/2015/05/29/announcing-gittorrent-a-decentralized-github/
I'm not saying we should do it this way, but I love how he combined three existing technologies to produce fully-distributed version control.
niconiconi [MOVED]Free Software Needs Free Tools
https://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html
June 4, 2010
Mako was correct. "I told ya so!"
@niconiconi @dashie yeah, I also did some talks about it several years ago.
Many of us saw it coming.