Interesting conversation on #riskybusiness
I took away how conversation between users and producers of LLM tools often can be hindered by the participants perspectives to the point of misunderstandings.
It reminds notes of how early conversations (2000s) about self driving cars and AI were along the lines of "if your car has to choose between crashing into a bus load of orphans or crashing you into a brick wall..."
That kind of speculation seems painfully naive now.
Also the job of interviewee #Nicholas_Carlini (Anthropoc) is security and privacy, when more exactly their job is talking about security and privacy - which is not a slam - it is actually much harder.
Highly recommended . I'm very interested in what others take away from this episode.

Feature Interview: Nicholas Carlini, Anthropic — Risky Business Features
In this episode, Anthropic’s Nicholas Carlini joins Patrick Gray and James Wilson to talk about advancements in AI-driven vulnerability research and exploit development. Nicholas’ talk at the recent [un]prompted conference demonstrated how Anthropic’s Opus 4.6 could find and exploit vulnerabilities in popular open source projects. In the short few weeks since then, Anthropic announced a new model that’s already identifying hundreds of bug fixes across critical software. Nicholas talks us through the work he does at Anthropic, what’s possible and the limitations with current frontier models, and where this goes from here. This episode is also available on YouTube




