First impressions on the Koga Denham Bar:
https://www.instagram.com/p/DLNmbDAsjlj/?img_index=1
Mission: Finding a long ride / touring / bikepacking suitable flatbar configuration for me, version 10 or so.
#enduranceriding
#cycling
#flatbar
#mtbcockpits
#KogaDenhamBar
#Denhambar
#Altbar
#InnerBarEnds
Torsten Frank on Instagram: "Finding a long ride / touring / bikepacking suitable flatbar configuration for me, version 10 or so.
This time: testing the Koga Denham Bar.
It proves some theories I already alluded to earlier in my various posts on various grip models, inner and outer bar ends. Like that the inner part of the handlebar and also the inner bar ends or bull horns respectively need to be further in the front as a normal flat bar with no or just 9° backsweep can provide. And that having the bull horns a bit (or to a good deal) inside of the brake lever clamps is preferable and having no interfering clamps of the brake levers _and_ of inner bar ends which poke into the palm is what you want. And indeed - by virtue of the bull horns being welded flush onto the bar this is how you want it.
But - that 34° backsweep of the Denham bars is massive! The problem is 3-fold:
- Now the reach difference is pretty big (too big?) between middle section and bull horns on the one side and the grips on the other side.
- the back sweep is too big for me so my wrist angle is not neutral in normal riding position (and actually - that is the main thing the various backsweeps on different flat bars are trying to achieve.
(cont'd in comments)"
7 likes, 1 comments - torsten_frank on June 22, 2025: "Finding a long ride / touring / bikepacking suitable flatbar configuration for me, version 10 or so.
This time: testing the Koga Denham Bar.
It proves some theories I already alluded to earlier in my various posts on various grip models, inner and outer bar ends. Like that the inner part of the handlebar and also the inner bar ends or bull horns respectively need to be further in the front as a normal flat bar with no or just 9° backsweep can provide. And that having the bull horns a bit (or to a good deal) inside of the brake lever clamps is preferable and having no interfering clamps of the brake levers _and_ of inner bar ends which poke into the palm is what you want. And indeed - by virtue of the bull horns being welded flush onto the bar this is how you want it.
But - that 34° backsweep of the Denham bars is massive! The problem is 3-fold:
- Now the reach difference is pretty big (too big?) between middle section and bull horns on the one side and the grips on the other side.
- the back sweep is too big for me so my wrist angle is not neutral in normal riding position (and actually - that is the main thing the various backsweeps on different flat bars are trying to achieve.
(cont'd in comments)".
My ongoing quest to find a nice and lightweight flat bar grip configuration, part x.
Now with Dongker bar ends quite inwards. Read my results and musings (also on remote lockout wants) in this insta-post:
https://www.instagram.com/p/DJUVgS4sg-8/?img_index=1
Way too much text to write it here... Well - I'd wish I could...
#flatbar #mtb #innerbarends #cycling
Torsten Frank on Instagram: "My ongoing quest to find a nice and lightweight flat bar grip configuration for long rides and bikepacking.
Can’t use normal round grips like Ergon and the like. Tested the foamy ones, too. No grip was ever ripped faster off my bars again ever.
Had decent success with the Ergon GP-2S (with a wing and integrated small outer bar ends). Then tried the SQlab 710 S you see here and like it a tiny bit better then the Ergon.
But w/o additional grip positions this is also no solution for me.
In came 2 variants of SQlab’s inner bar ends and also the Dongker outer bar ends you see here, too. But every time right next to the grip and outwards of the brake lever clamp (see also my posts from last November).
Current iteration: ditched the SQlab Inner bar ends, took the Dongker normal bar ends again and moved those inwards of the brake levers like you see here.
(cont'd in comments)"
32 likes, 6 comments - torsten_frank on May 6, 2025: "My ongoing quest to find a nice and lightweight flat bar grip configuration for long rides and bikepacking.
Can’t use normal round grips like Ergon and the like. Tested the foamy ones, too. No grip was ever ripped faster off my bars again ever.
Had decent success with the Ergon GP-2S (with a wing and integrated small outer bar ends). Then tried the SQlab 710 S you see here and like it a tiny bit better then the Ergon.
But w/o additional grip positions this is also no solution for me.
In came 2 variants of SQlab’s inner bar ends and also the Dongker outer bar ends you see here, too. But every time right next to the grip and outwards of the brake lever clamp (see also my posts from last November).
Current iteration: ditched the SQlab Inner bar ends, took the Dongker normal bar ends again and moved those inwards of the brake levers like you see here.
(cont'd in comments)".
... this post:
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCUdyXWu4-V/?img_index=1
continues on that topic with the SQlab Inner Bar ends and further musings.
Still not the real deal for me by a long shot. Thus my thinking on some inner bar ends I can rest my palms upon just like on those Red AXS hoods or similar (on flat bars).
#mtb #innerbarends #handlebar #ergonomics
Torsten Frank on Instagram: "Inner Bar Ends. In continuing the topic from my 3rd to last post where I showed you normal outer bar ends from Dongker, but mounted inwards I now show you the @sqlab SQlab Innerbarends 411 2.0.
These are an improvement on the previous version 1.0 and modelled after their 411 R Carbon ones. Most notably they are „hollow“, i.e. just a sort of half pipe instead of a complete tube or massive part. Which not only makes them lighter but actually also more versatile to grip. Also their shape got improved in my eyes. Compared to the former SQlab Innerbarends 410/402 I have since a few years the most important aspect is that the top rider facing edge isn’t as pronounced, as sharp and as far back reaching. Which is super important as this makes it so that you can actually rest your hands also with the palms or fingers enveloping the Inner Bar End instead of just having it as that „one trick pony“ where you really only are intended to wedge your thumb-to-indexfinger gap into and nothing else.
Which is already nice but really doesn’t do much for me in terms of long duration ride comfort. And I stress it: this is not a position which resembles the hoods position on a drop bar. For this, the diameter of the Inner Bar End has to be wider and you not have to wedge thumb and indexfinger around it but really need to rest the complete or most parts of your actual palm on it.
Which I can already do quite nicely with the previously shown Dongker Bar Ends (also one slide in here) and absolutely not with the former SQlab Innerbarends 410. These SQlab 411 2.0 lie in between. So maybe I can make them work?
(cont'd in 1st comment)
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#grabmyproductideas
#andmakeithappen
#InnerBarEnds
#enduranceriding
#cycling
#flatbar
#mtbcockpits
#SQlab
#freeConsulting"
71 likes, 18 comments - torsten_frank on November 13, 2024: "Inner Bar Ends. In continuing the topic from my 3rd to last post where I showed you normal outer bar ends from Dongker, but mounted inwards I now show you the @sqlab SQlab Innerbarends 411 2.0.
These are an improvement on the previous version 1.0 and modelled after their 411 R Carbon ones. Most notably they are „hollow“, i.e. just a sort of half pipe instead of a complete tube or massive part. Which not only makes them lighter but actually also more versatile to grip. Also their shape got improved in my eyes. Compared to the former SQlab Innerbarends 410/402 I have since a few years the most important aspect is that the top rider facing edge isn’t as pronounced, as sharp and as far back reaching. Which is super important as this makes it so that you can actually rest your hands also with the palms or fingers enveloping the Inner Bar End instead of just having it as that „one trick pony“ where you really only are intended to wedge your thumb-to-indexfinger gap into and nothing else.
Which is already nice but really doesn’t do much for me in terms of long duration ride comfort. And I stress it: this is not a position which resembles the hoods position on a drop bar. For this, the diameter of the Inner Bar End has to be wider and you not have to wedge thumb and indexfinger around it but really need to rest the complete or most parts of your actual palm on it.
Which I can already do quite nicely with the previously shown Dongker Bar Ends (also one slide in here) and absolutely not with the former SQlab Innerbarends 410. These SQlab 411 2.0 lie in between. So maybe I can make them work?
(cont'd in 1st comment)
.
.
#grabmyproductideas
#andmakeithappen
#InnerBarEnds
#enduranceriding
#cycling
#flatbar
#mtbcockpits
#SQlab
#freeConsulting".
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