From the same podcast team, an interview with Alex Vitale on his book #EndOfPolicing which I just finished reading. A near perfect 1hr summary - topical structure of the book is tossed to emphasize the historical context and structural themes of the problems of increasing police involvement in responding to all societal problems with force and coercion. Criminalization of poverty, sex, and mental health, and the colonial/anti-labor/slave-patrol roots of policing.

https://soundcloud.com/upstreampodcast/alex-vitale