Show threadgyptazyAug 23, 2025
as always, highly depends on your personal needs. I'm a huge Proxmox fan, but there're of course several different cool solutions. Next to #Proxmox, I also often use #incus [0] in personal labs but I'm also a huge fan of #XCPng with #Orechstra. #SuseHarvester 's [2] approach is also a great solution (similar to #Platform9) if you want to go into the modern world (in the end, they're also using KVM). If it's just single node, I really would also consider #bhyve on #FreeBSD (maybe even via #ClonOS / #cbsd).

[0]: https://gyptazy.com/incus-for-containers-and-vms-a-powerful-proxmox-alternative-a-step-by-step-guide-to-build-a-cluster/
[1]: https://gyptazy.com/blog/xcpng-a-more-professional-alternative-to-proxmox-based-on-xen/
[2]: https://gyptazy.com/blog/harvester-a-more-modern-alternative-to-proxmox/


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Incus for Containers and VMs: A Powerful Proxmox Alternative? A Step-by-Step Guide to build a Cluster

Is Incus a better solution than Proxmox? Features and usage of Incus in detail.

Show threadtxt.fileMay 8, 2025
looks like #CBSD changed domains https://github.com/cbsd/cbsd/commit/84e301d61d272fe2afdc1b2b9a165bde24ed219c
sed s:bsdstore.ru:convectix.com:g · cbsd/cbsd@84e301d

Yet one more wrapper around jail, bhyve, QEMU and XEN - sed s:bsdstore.ru:convectix.com:g · cbsd/cbsd@84e301d

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txt.fileMay 8, 2025
Did #Russia take more than mobile phone internet offline? Or is https://www.bsdstore.ru/ unreachable for other reasons?
#CBSD
Show threadgyptazySep 30, 2024

@kta @autolycus @mudala

I’m really a huge fan of #cbsd and #CloneOS (also committed). But as long as there is no live migration, #bhyve unfortunately keeps „unusable“ in mid- & big sized enterprises. We're not in year 2010 anymore where we can tell customers to take his VM down for maintenances or security updates - especially nowadays where we have major security patches on a weekly base.

I’m aware of the papers and patches, but still no stable support. But my last look at it is also almost a year ago.

Show threadgyptazySep 28, 2024

Thanks, that looks pretty perfect. But at least on the feature list no live migrations are listed. However, it looks like a great tool next to #cbsd for easy mgmt on cli in #FreeBSD.

@dexter @d4gli

Just DudeSep 18, 2024

Jail app update

The appjail journey ends for now. Spent to much time on various things Promising and easy to initially use. But very difficult to get it running with vnet and accessible jails for the LAN. DHCP works but I cannot set any limits on IP ranges. Config files for jails are on strange locations, no jail.conf to have to all in one place.

So... the journey continues.
I tried Pot, and in no time I got jails running isolated, on my LAN ip range and with selective ports to open.
See https://pot.pizzamig.dev/

Installation was a breeze, ZFS support, import export and clone is possible.
Templates (so called) flavors) are available:
https://potluck.honeyguide.net/
A flavour is a template that after creating an empty pot, installs the dependencies and sets settings. Configuration before start is done via pot set-env and some parameters. Easy once you get the heck of it.

Networking is a relief and well documented:
https://pot.pizzamig.dev/Network/

Support on github is fast.

Example pot based on Freebsd 14.1 on a fixed LAN address:
pot create -p mypot2 -t single -b 14.1 -N alias -i 192.168.3.2 -S ipv4 -f fbsd-update

(the -f is the favor, in this case the update script for freebsd)

So exploration started and who knows what follows?

#jails #appjail #cbsd #bastille #pot #freebsd #server #networking

pot

Another jail framework aiming to improve container-based workflows

patproJul 22, 2024

Yesterday I was giving #CBSD a try (#bhyve + #jail wrapper for #FreeBSD).
After few hours trying + documentation reading + forum browsing, I was not able to «passthru» my GPU. The same task took me only 2 minutes using #BVCP 🤷‍♂️

Also, I was no able to install #OpenBSD, but hopefully it’s not related to CBSD.

gyptazyJun 28, 2024
Does anyone here have some more details regarding live migrations with #bhyve? Your setup (shared storage, local ZFS,…) and how you perform this (tools [e.g. #cbsd], manually)… just a short high level overview is enough.
gyptazyJun 21, 2024
#Proxmox but for #FreeBSD? Have a look at #ClonOS (based on #cbsd)!

https://gyptazy.ch/blog/clonos-an-alternative-to-proxmox-based-on-freebsd/

#bsd #virtualization #zfs #ipv6 #livemigration #bhyve #jails
ClonOS - An Alternative to Proxmox Based on FreeBSD

ClonOS is an open-source platform based on FreeBSD, designed for managing jails containers and bhyve virtual environments through an intuitive web UI which might become an alternative to Proxmox on Linux.

gyptazyJun 17, 2024
Just pushed German translations to #clonos. So, if you’re into #FreeBSD #Jails (#cbsd) and #bhyve - this project might be perfect for you! #ClonOS is something like #Proxmox but on #FreeBSD and especially the live migration part is interesting. Happy to see more contributors there :)

https://github.com/clonos/control-pane/issues/65#event-13191075473

`Feature`: Create German translation for web control panel · Issue #65 · clonos/control-pane

General Currently, this project already provides multiple languages like Russian, Spanish and English for the web interface / control panel. It might be great to cover more language like German and...

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