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@luis_in_brief Yeah, agreed that current reality does not have our back here and there’s no plausible story when similar infrastructural & utility institutions are being politicized or privatized every day

@luis_in_brief It’s still connected to what winning/losing might mean for Mozilla: browsing is a lower-level utility now, people might prefer not to think about it but it’s still between them and what they actually want. In a better world that position would be reflected in public support (as in, government money like what created NCSA Mosaic) instead of scrabbling around the edges of hardware or ad vendors’ business models.

@luis_in_brief this makes some sense in a realpolitik way, but mostly because other browser makers are strapped to a completely different and larger business. Splitting Chrome out of Google on antitrust grounds and maybe acknowledging how the render engine is something more like public infrastructure might’ve been a better outcome? Not in today’s Scam Economy of course. Everything bad is downstream of that.

@ingrid can’t believe you knocked it out in 2 1/2 years!

@SouthDakota @adarsh Weirdos.

@itsooni @byondr yeah, for example I wouldn’t take Pat out right now

@byondr feels like they don’t trust him, and I really wonder about all those complicated summer negotiations