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Taiwan #1

Trans rights are human rights

@clayote I understand, you're right, my response makes it seem that way, when my intention was to respond more generally to data trained in a copyright violating way (books, lectures, speeches). I should have been more clear about that earlier, thanks for pointing that out. No wonder people are responding strongly!

Via Twitter @alrougui - auto translated:

“A Lebanese university professor teaching his students remotely… and during the lecture, Israeli shelling begins, and one of the students loses her mother, who was killed because of the strike.”

@clayote none of that changes the fact that people should be allowed to create art around the characters and stories that comprise our cultural mythology, something copyright law prevents. Or should be allowed to do whatever we want with the software on our computers, something copyright law prevents.

@clayote I'm happy for them, but

1. LLMs are still being trained on those scripts because there's no way to catch them doing so, and if they get caught they'll get away with it by arguing it was oopsie accident here's .00001% of our profit as a fine
2. Their rights will continue being degraded in a constant battle against exploitation
3. Corpos will still foolishly try to replace them with LLMs regardless

My point is that LLMs are a symptom of a far greater problem

@clayote trying to stop a corporation from using your data to train an LLM using copyright law would be like a minor version (very, very minor) of a slave sueing a slaveholder. It probably won't work, but also it's an absurdity because the entire system exists to support the slaveholder, and will happily engage in hypocrisy and paradox to do so.
@clayote there's a thread there worth exploring that I need to think about

@clayote I support them attacking corpos however they please, but I argue that using copyright to do so will be at best ineffective, at worst long term harmful.

Copyright is a tool belonging to the Capital class. Its "protections" of normal people are a part of the mythology of it so that we tolerate something absurd, the idea that only certain people (read: companies) are allowed to do things with information, stories, characters.

It won't work because corpos can just ignore it, worse case.

@crankylinuxuser @Epic_Null @tante that sounds great, what kind of hardware?
@Epic_Null @crankylinuxuser @tante I strongly recommend trying the PRC models then since they're built from tech on tech violence lol. They're distilled from the frontier models. Using them represents a capitalistic harm to openai etc