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RE: https://front-end.social/@stefan/116119704958115598

Great deep dive by @piccalilli

One thing I would have loved to see covered as well: foreign list-style-type values for ordered lists. Something often forgotten in multilingual websites, even though it contributes to cultural and linguistic consistency.

Here is a small example:
https://codepen.io/fedbysandrine/pen/JoRPaGb

(Note: I don’t speak those languages, so please make sure to confirm with professional translators when applying this to real content.)

@thudfactor And developers end up to believe it too.
When I interact with devs to introduce accessibility in their practice, the priority message I gotta pass is "you are not designer assistants".

Know your role, know the scope of your role, know the boundaries of your role, and defend it.

@rachsmith 2 years ago I was obsessed with @mxbck 's serif font.
https://mastodon.social/@fedbysandrine/110165426886928443

I went back to check. I still am.
It just works.

https://mxb.dev/

Max Böck

Max Böck is a professional front-end developer based in Vienna, Austria.

Max Böck
@aardrian I'd like to find words of encouragements but they all sound with the same resonating void than "thoughts and prayers" and "hang in there" 😩

@yatil Absolutely! You do not owe anyone free feedback, guidance nor solutions.

I agree that the resource is not OK, and need rework.

I appreciated all feedbacks that informed on the resource and it prompted me to search for them with the normative reference for my own understanding.

We need people with high standards, to be purist, to seek and push for accuracy.
I think you and the others are 100% in your role.

They are those that push us to be better, but don't let it burn you out :)

@yatil That's not what my message is saying at all.

@yatil Finally, I believe that feedback and criticism MUST be public on the open platform the ressource is shared.

That's how community works, everyone must be able to be in the conversation.
But we shouldn't lose sight we're all on the same side here.

I appreciated your -and others- feedback on the topic, but I also kinda appreciate the ressource too, even if I won't consider it a reference.

@yatil

That said, the ressource is far to be the first of its kind, it just usually comes in the form of blog articles, a criteria at a time.

I believe it still has the merit to exist and, if anything, the whole situation highlights how the original is still overwhelming and subject to opinionated interpretation even by competent professionals.

It does not demerit the exceptional work provided by volunteers.

@yatil I think the suggestion was more on some call to take it down or not share until/unless it's perfectly accurate.

The feedback and criticisms are more than welcome, they're absolutely necessary to progress as a community.

I think one of the biggest pain point is the name of the ressource without a disclaimer that can mislead as an authority figure and prevent a proper level of trust.

@aardrian France is eyeing strongly at your scientists with a call from the President and a dedicated platform "Choose France for Science" - whose ugly design is so coming straight from the early 2000s, you can sense the urgency in your bones (with mailto links in non focusable span 😭😭).
"Choose France for Web Design"... we obviously need help 🙄

Snark aside, the situation in U.S. is nothing short of terrifying.
It's shot in the foot after another.

https://france2030.agencerecherche.fr/ChooseFranceForScience-2025/accueil.php

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