@joanachicau brilliant!

@lanodan I agree that the ordering is deterministic if the data is known beforehand, than i can run the whole thing over and over again and i will always get the same order. But even the time at which data comes in is unpredictable, so i would stick with Knuths definition that the log continually interacts with its environment, and thus qualifies as a reactive process.

@lanodan not sure what part of logging i would need to understand, but the point is that a program that produces a different log (such as a web server) when it gets different requests makes it pretty unpredictable what will be written in the log-file, for example it will impossible to predict which IP-address will appear in the logs of a web server in the next second. in that sense I would say a server log is a reactive process.

@lanodan sure, but if new data are constantly fed into a program (toots, images etc..) which are by their order unpredictable, what will be first on the list becomes unpredictable.

@lanodan given Donald E. Knuth's Definition of an algorithm vs. what he calls a a computational method, one might be tempted to deduce that personal computers and alike (cell phone etc..) run almost no algorithm and mostly computational methods, see scan

@stephiewunder @plusea also a good reason to mention the great svg2shenzen plugin from Budi Prakosa a.k.a Iyok: https://github.com/badgeek/svg2shenzhen and i finally shared my footprint repository for creating circuits with inkscape on codeberg https://codeberg.org/fblchrstn/footprints
#pcb, #svg2shenzen, #footprints

@stephiewunder @plusea a good reason to feature hannah's love letter to the attiny https://www.kobakant.at/DIY/?p=9046
#attiny #diy