(Also is it just me or is "coder" possibly the worst word for "software engineer"?)
@Gargron I think they both suck. Most software "engineers" have nowhere near the technical ability of like a structural engineer. I usually just say developer
@kodo @Gargron we need to put "engineering" into "software engineering" (not "put back" btw, it was never there)
@rysiek @kodo @Gargron This is why I like you. One of my favorite subjects for soapboxing.
@Gargron @rysiek it's not that developers aren't talented. it's just that most commerce websites don't need an "engineer"
@kodo @Gargron Correction, they think they don't.
@kodo @Gargron Most don't, but I make the distinction because I work on life-critical and infrastructure-critical software, am among the rare few who do it right, and it's hard to advocate for my ethics and methods if I don't have a name or archetype to offer people.