Baldur Bjarnason1d ago

One of the lessons that many in software strangely never learn is that breaking something while being an asshole gets a very different response from people than breaking something while not being an asshole

And, given how “AI” continues to pour shit on the rest of society, using LLMs is widely going to be perceived as an asshole move

For better or for worse, using LLMs in OSS is going to be seen as an adversarial move that undermines community building

Show threadjtb1d ago
@baldur I disagree. Much time is wasted making syntax errors. AI doesn't make syntax errors. I expect there was similar resentment when high level languages took over from assembler.
Show threadchx1d ago
@jtb LLMs do not make syntax errors? *in your dreams*
Show threadLeeloo1d ago

@chx @jtb
To be fair, it probably does make fewer syntax errors than someone so new to development that they think syntax errors is where any relevant amount of time is being spent.

That's pretty much on par with claiming that self driving cars are great, because you don't have to waste time trying to remember which pedal is the brake and which is the throttle every time you come up to a stop sign.

Show threadjtb
@leeloo @chx Perhaps you only write programs in one language. Try writing programs in a language you aren't familiar with. I know it is a waste of time arguing though, you are AI haters, you think in black and white, for you, it's a good vs evil thing.
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Show threadchx1d ago
@jtb @leeloo it is indeed evil. You got it in one. And I will wear the LLM hater t-shirt with pride. I refuse the AI hater marker: a lot of success in my life comes from Stanford NLP. It was and still is a useful toolset which never instructed a child to commit suicide, exploited Africans or poor communities for data centers. Funny how that works and funny how LLM proponents want to piggyback on that success by equating LLMs with AI.
Show threadLeeloo1d ago

@jtb @chx
Only one language? You mean other than the four I have listed on my profile as my favorite languages?

You have no clue what you are talking about.

Show threadchx1d ago
@jtb @leeloo as for a single language, I learned Pascal, my second programming language on a 8 bit home computer when I was 11 years old and back then I was still living behind the Iron Curtain. Yes. It was that long ago. So perhaps no, I am not writing programs in a single language.