Rui CarmoHmmm. #plan9
moody@rcarmo This output is nonsensical, I presume you posted this without any of your own validation?
@rcarmo First of all the rfork flag is RFNAMEG not RFNAMESPACE. Second, a plan to port Wayland to 9front is only thinkable by someone with a pretty gnarly dunning-Kruger effect to both. Are you aware of how most Wayland clients want to talk to the GPU? Are you aware of exactly how much work this "vulkan (phase 3)" would entail? It seems to imply porting the entirety of Linux drm which would dwarf the rest of plan 9 kernel by maybe 1000x.
@m00dy I think you are overreacting. I was testing the planning skill for structure, not the technical part. And yes, this was one of three scenarios that it put forward. and yes, it said it would take years, and yes, I know my way around vulkan, if you take the time to check some of my stuff...
@rcarmo So you were aware of the amount of man hours that porting DRM and mesa would entail. What about my other points? How are you going to transparently address the mmap crap that Wayland programs do to get a GPU buffer? What about the Unix socket assumptions of libwayland?
When I try to view your work all I see are ai generated images and ai agents. Is that your plan to do this? Have the AI spin its wheels for 5 years until you've back ported all the bad ideas of Linux?
@m00dy I'm sorry, but I won't be baited into an aggressive discussion. I think that you still misunderstood what I was doing. Have a nice day!
@rcarmo Sure man, keep posting AI nonsense that you know nothing about and then tell people "you just don't get it, it's not that serious" when someone tells you that the output is bullshit.
@m00dy listen, I'm going to be very, very blunt: I have been, on and off, a Plan9 user for many years. I refitted Drawterm so that I could use it again on a modern Mac. I _love_ the thing, unreasonably. But if this is the kind of flak I get for thinking "let's have this agent I built try to plan its way around something impossible and see how it goes" and use something I _love_, then you are doing a disservice to the community. Get a sense of humor, this is a social network.
@rcarmo Are we measuring "how much I love Plan 9" e-peens now?
https://github.com/9front/9front/commits?author=majiru
https://github.com/9front/drawterm/commits?author=majiru
Maybe check and see who wrote the gui-wl backend for drawterm.
@rcarmo I am going to give you flak for thinking "yeah lets have this agent work on this ginormous change to retrofit bad linux interfaces". Because anyone with knowledge of either sides of that (wayland or Plan 9) knows that its a non starter for the reasons I've talked about already, and should know the output would not be anything enjoyable.
I made the previous joke because "I had an AI work on this feature for me" is not a valid way of building ethos to me.
@m00dy did you actually get that I was purposefully giving the AI an unfeasible scenario to gauge its approach?
@rcarmo Hence why my first question was basically asking "did you gauge this approach yourself before posting?". Asking an AI some design questions, not thinking about the output and then posting it to a social network with the #plan9 tag (without the 'just giving it an impossible thing for funsies XD') is essentially asking someone else to gauge it for you, which I did, when I gave you my list of technical issues with this.
@m00dy Fine. I would not have been as aggressive as you. Different takes. Anyway, if you want to criticize something, some constructive criticism is welcome about this: https://rcarmo.github.io/projects/9front because my experience with uboot has been exclusively Linux-centric.
