Becca

yes, but we, as citizens are still required to know -every single law-

ignorance of the law is not a defense at law

https://mastodon.social/@theleftistlawyer/116553408892031565

https://legalclarity.org/ignorantia-juris-non-excusat-what-it-means-and-its-legal-impact/

Ignorantia Juris Non Excusat: Meaning and Exceptions

Ignorance of the law is generally no excuse, but tax cases, unpublished laws, and reliance on official guidance can change that calculus.

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Show threadBeccaMay 11

not knowing all of them logically implies that we risk violating one we dont know about

QED

Show threadBeccaMay 11

so lawyers can say theyre bound to do something reasonable

while we, in the guise of citizenry? are bound to a standard not even the lawyers are willing to meet.

Show threadBeccaMay 11

the entire legal system is fundamentally broken. to its core.

it contains irreconcilable elements that create a caste system

it must go

Show threadBeccaMay 11
the law cannot be like a hidden frontier beyond an implied but unstated morality
Show threadBeccaMay 11

i am rejecting secret laws

the location of a needle in a haystack is not a secret because it's physically impossible, in a general sense, to examine each piece of straw, but because theres TOO MANY FUCKIN PIECES OF STRAW

Show threadBeccaMay 11
if you want me to know all the unknown unknowns, id better be provided with a free lawyer on call, 24/7/365
Show threadBeccaMay 11
no legislation without representation
Show threadBeccaMay 11

and i dont mean the half assed version of representation where the state shrugs and says,

sure you can have a lawyer

if you can pay $10k up front at $500/hour and actually find someone

Show threadBeccaMay 11

i do not consent to be governed in this manner.

it is wrong. it is broken.

"Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,"

Show threadBeccaMay 11

listen to yourselves

"hire" a lawyer?! hire access to the legal system?

because that's functionally what it's become

#POSIWID

Show threadBeccaMay 11
"oh well you can just quit your job and sell everything to become poor enough to get an overworked public defender put in a guilty plea for you"
Show threadBeccaMay 11
LISTEN TO YOURSELVES
Show threadBeccaMay 11
my biggest pet peeve in life is probably power dynamics
Show threadBeccaMay 11

anyone ever play the card game Mao?

it can be a truly frustrating experience. its a lot like that

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_(card_game)

Mao (card game) - Wikipedia

Show threadbouriquetMay 11
@bweller It’s all about why poor people go to prison and rich people pay a stable of lawyers to stay out of prison. We have one of those in a really high place now but he did more than pay lawyers…he had other rich people influence judges. That’s even worse because cases never even get to trial. Serious cases like treason, insurrection and mishandling of classified information. Ask Reality Winner about the inequalities between the little people and the powerful.
Show threadmillennial fulcrumMay 11

@bweller 💯
power hierarchies mean abuse. it is intrinsic.

equality is the only answer. the only one.

Show threadJennifer Kayla | Theogrin 🦊May 11

@bweller

Better yet, we see instances on a regular basis where the myriad laws are not, in fact, upheld -- where lawbreakers and outright criminals are left alone in a patchwork of exceptions and restrictions which either boil down to 'we can't prosecute them, they're rich' or 'we won't prosecute them, we don't hate them enough.'

And then society tells children while they grow up that the law is enforced equally. What a crock of shit. What a fantastic letdown once kids realize that no, police are as a class of people utter bastards, the law is meant to protect exactly one type of person, and that type is not the bright-eyed ingenue.

And what a hell it is for someone like me, most at home with systems which are well-defined and well-regulated, to find that what should be a fundamental aspect of our society is in fact a mess of spaghetti put together in such a way that if you follow the rules, you lose.

Show threadBeccaMay 11
@theogrin 💯🔥
Show threadRuth O'DayMay 11

@theogrin @bweller

Apart from 'we can't prosecute them, they're rich' and 'we won't prosecute them, we don't hate them enough' there is also, in some circumstances where there is some publicity, "with all the publicity, they have suffered enough, so there is no need to prosecute".