Show threadpulusoundFeb 24
learning about DOS reminds me of my networking classes back in the day. all these acronyms
Show threadpulusoundFeb 24
i seemingly got SBEMU working but when i try running Doom with it, depending on DOS startup settings and SBEMU card type, it either crashes on launch or during gameplay. and in either case there is no sound
Show threadpulusoundFeb 24
maybe i need a simpler sound test program..
Show threadpulusoundFeb 24
VSBHDA doesnt crash but still no sound, in either Doom or legendary finnish game Wings
Show threadpulusoundFeb 24
this *is* supposed to be one of the supported chipsets (VT8237). hmm
Show threadpulusoundFeb 24
tried disabling the USB2.0 controller as it shares an IRQ with the onboard audio, but no difference
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hmm some unresolved VT8237 issues here https://github.com/Baron-von-Riedesel/VSBHDA/issues/23

so maybe it just doesnt work

Not working on VT8237 (Asus mobo) · Issue #23 · Baron-von-Riedesel/VSBHDA

Even though the initialization is successful and the protected mode support is enabled, the PM app I am using to try the emulation is saying "Hardware init failure" and refuses to start. It is the ...

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Show threadpulusoundFeb 24
not sure what the next thing to try from here would be. do i get a SB Live or Audigy for PCI?
Show threadpulusoundFeb 24
remember when i owned a SB Live until less than a year ago? 😂 https://anticapitalist.party/@ahihi/114428907529749496
pulusound (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 image here is a tough one though. do i bring these PCI cards over to the new place just in case i might one day decide to get into retro non-mac PCs

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(i am pretty sure we sold it, but not 100%)
Show threadpulusoundFeb 24
moral of the story: never get rid of anything
Show threadpulusoundFeb 24
since i dont have audio i might as well look into the AGP GPU flashing thing. it seems the system will not start up with the Radeon connected, or at least i get nothing from the onboard VGA
Show threadpulusoundFeb 24
this is a problem because the AGP card's firmware is currently fucked, so it of course also gives no video
Show threadpulusoundFeb 24
BIOS is configured to prioritize PCI graphics over AGP. not sure if that also is supposed to apply to the onboard graphics or if i actually need a separate PCI card
Show threadpulusoundFeb 24
apparently i ordered a PCI GPU in december. tracking says "Last-mile supplier received" in january, unclear if there are supposed to be updates after this. i dont think i received it..
Show threadpulusoundFeb 24
it is hard to rule out completely since everything is chaos around here but i cant find it in any of the obvious places at least
Show threadpulusoundMar 13
i ordered another very cheap ATI Rage XL PCI just in case. it was from a different ebay seller than the first one, but according to finnish post the sender was the same. today i received both cards. lol
Show threadpulusoundMar 13

the time has come to fuck around with DOS again

test 1: can i boot with either of the Rages (and no AGP card) installed

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yes! both cards appear to be functional :)

test 2: can i boot with both a PCI and AGP card installed

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yes!!

test 3: can i find my USB drive with the flashing files, and does atiflash see the AGP card

Show threadpulusoundMar 13
yes indeed. it says AT25F1024/C here but i know thats a lie
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maybe we can make it less of a lie
Show threadpulusoundMar 13
the operation might be a success
Show threadpulusoundMar 13
dual wielding soldering irons was very helpful again :)
Show threadpulusoundMar 13
it looks like i can indeed write the full 128KB ROM 👀
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G4 does not like it though
Show threadpulusoundMar 13
tried also the 136 ROM with similar results. hmm
Show threadpulusoundMar 13

i flashed a PC ROM to check that the card is not generally fucked. nope, works fine in the DOS machine

im pretty much out of ideas :/

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there is still the question of this MF/SF switch thing.. but again, this does not exist on my card
Show threadpulusoundMar 13

HMM

this person mentions having to move some resistors under the heatsink https://68kmla.org/bb/threads/radeon-9000-pro-agp-flashing.51727/

Radeon 9000 Pro AGP Flashing

I was buying stuff from Japan a while back and threw in a cheap Radeon 9000 Pro AGP card. My half-baked plan was to steal its 3.3ns RAM and try to build the world's fastest Radeon 8500. I'm not up for that tedious (and probably pointless) of a project right now, but I wanted to do something with...

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Show threadpulusoundMar 13
i am willing to give it a try but how the fuck do you figure out this kind of thing lol
Show threadpulusoundMar 13
mine are not labeled with numbers but i guess itd be these two in the center of the photo
Show threadpulusoundMar 13
i was not prepared for how tiny these resistors are
Show threadpulusoundMar 13
the good news is flux is magic and i may have succeeded
Show threadpulusoundMar 13
HOLY SHIT ITS REAL
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FUCK YESSSSSSSS
Show threadpulusoundMar 14
powermac posting shall continue in the other thread https://anticapitalist.party/@ahihi/116224581299495244
Show threadpulusoundApr 23
tonight i shall pick up a Sound Blaster Live which should be more compatible with the SB emulators
Show threadpulusoundApr 23
:3
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its future proof!
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i have a sudden urge to make "Y2K certified" stickers and slap them on anything and everything
Apr 23 at 5:50pmWeb
Show threadpulusoundApr 23
this thing came with some real vintage dust
Show threadpulusoundApr 23
it works 🥰
Show threadpulusoundApr 23
testing the y2k compliance by playing my track "y2k" with mpxplay ✅
Show threadpulusoundApr 23
there is something really nice about a music player on a non-multitasking OS, making listening to music the singular thing you do on the computer
Show threadpulusoundApr 23
i think its time to screw everything in place and shut the case
Show threadpulusoundApr 23

my optical drive is too new and has no CD audio output 😔

not that it makes much sense to play CDs on this thing. but

Show threadpulusoundApr 24
@dec_hl i was trying out some of the DOjS audio examples, e.g. tests/wav.js, but i get no sound and in fact the sketch seems to freeze immediately (mouse pointer doesnt move, cant exit with esc). any tips for debugging? im using VSBHDA which does work with the handful of games i tried so far
Show threadpulusoundApr 25

uhhh

i dir my USB drive on FreeDOS. it shows the expected files, but hangs for some time at the end (USB drive LED keeps flashing)

i dir the same drive a second time. now i see an entirely different list of files (and no hang)

Show threadpulusoundApr 25
now playing Heretic for the first time (with novert to disable walking on mouse up/down movement, which people in the 90s apparently thought was a good idea)
Show threadsashaApr 25
@ahihi nice btw the final boss is a real bitch lol good luck
Show threadboggoApr 25
@ahihi This game is so good.
Show threadSimon GreenwoodApr 25
@ahihi
Disk cache, IIRC. Removable drives do odd things with DOS. I haven't played with it with USB drives for years though.
Show threadSuperIluApr 24
@ahihi I fear I never tried if Allegro works with VSBHDA. If you look into JSLOG.TXT, is there any output? Is the SB detected at all?
Show threadpulusoundApr 24
@dec_hl i left for work but i will check in the evening!
Show threadpulusoundApr 25

@dec_hl hmm so it seems sometimes it does not freeze, in which case i get this log (but still no sound)

when it does freeze, there is no log output

Show threadSuperIluApr 25

@ahihi yeah, as I feared the Allegro SB code does not wanna play with the emulation.

I should have 1 or 2 SB-Live! in my stash to investigate, but finding them is the hard part 🤣

Which OS are you using? Have you tried running DOjS in a DOS-Window of Win98?

AFAIK the Creative Win9x driver also does some kind of emulation for DOS command prompts...

Show threadpulusoundApr 25
@dec_hl im on FreeDOS, dont have any version of Windows yet due to installation media challenges
Show threadSuperIluApr 25

@ahihi do you know this?

https://github.com/oerg866/win98-quickinstall

GitHub - oerg866/win98-quickinstall: A framework + installer to (very) quickly install Windows 98 on anything from a 486 up to a modern system

A framework + installer to (very) quickly install Windows 98 on anything from a 486 up to a modern system - oerg866/win98-quickinstall

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Show threadSuperIluApr 26

@ahihi PS: There is a new SBEMU version on vogons (VSBHDA is based on the old SBEMU). Maybe worth a try...

https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=1418209#p1418209

SBEMU: Sound Blaster emulation on AC97 - Page 91 \ VOGONS

Show threadwordsmith‽ ⁂Apr 23
@ahihi chooooonz!