Age verification is a deliberate attack on system sovereignty, both for individuals and countries. There’s no “age verifcation”, there is only “identity verification that includes age”, and the system doing that verification is not just a privacy-invasive user tracking system but a remotely controlled off switch for anyone of any age.

@mhoye @Gargron
And if we have to do this by government law, we should verify to a single gov database that confirms we are who we are to other systems.

All of us giving our identity info to all the systems is stupid squared.

For my next insurer I want the Gov to confirm who I am, not hand over a pile of personal stuff. If the Government can’t do this safely, that’s my proof it shouldn’t be done.

Edit: non-government 3rd party should also be available but the law should state the user gets to chose which, and doesn’t have to use a shitty one forced by a retailer.

@taatm @mhoye @Gargron I had initially thought have the OS do the verification, and only respond "true" or "false" to a transparent condition (eg user gets to see the app is asking for age>=18) but putting the onus onto Govt entities is even better (single point of failure, and we know how they love to shirk blame, but tie it into personal consequences for the politicians in power at the time of a breach and maybe it would work)
@Offbeatmammal @taatm @mhoye @Gargron I, personally, do not want any government or corporation to hold that kind of power over what I can do with my own computing devices.
@tedmielczarek @Offbeatmammal @taatm @mhoye @Gargron But I do want them accountable when they force it on me anyway.