Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

@lisamelton Let’s also keep dunking on the techbros so that they know they’re lame and should feel bad.

@lisamelton

but the problem is nobody gets rich that way

@CStamp @the5thColumnist @lisamelton

I may be a sucky little cog in the Mechanical Turk algo of the Fediverse, but we're still miles ahead of what the F- ever Meta and Xter are swilling up.

I'm rather proud of being a sucky little cog! 

@lisamelton @the5thColumnist

They definitely won't be getting rich if nothing works and nobody wants what they offer

@lisamelton We have an algorithm though

1) Post something
2) if @lisamelton boosts it…
2a) Cringe as a legion of loonies feel they need to reply
3) Goto 1

@schwa @lisamelton yep, Lisa is THE algo of Mastodon, one of the few

@lisamelton

I think I participated in that poll and I'm sure I didn't vote the way he liked.

@jrdepriest Yes! It was a poll. And I'm sure I didn't vote the way he wanted either. 😂

Also, I sure AF didn't boost it.

@lisamelton feed algorithms are profit extraction machines - I'm all extracted out
@lisamelton I mean, they can just make one. It’s fine. There are some apps that will make an algo feed from your local server and your follows.

@lisamelton That said, let things be true to themselves… Masto as you say, is about the people who make it work, not an algo.

Don’t try to make fetch happen, eh?

@octothorpe @lisamelton Fetch would be a pretty good algo name though.
@lisamelton No, you re the algorithm, the rest of us just swim in the sea of Lisa boosts. 
@lisamelton Aw beans I've been added to the ocean, I shoulda posted this from the public account. 

@lisamelton

Yea, no thank you to that.

It's amazing that people have had their minds so scrambled by social algorithms that they actually crave it.

Gross.

@lisamelton

Yes! And how did I see this post? A boost from a friend (yay!), not from an algorithm !

Help Mohammed and his Family in Gaza Survive and Seek Evacuation

My name is Mohammed Abu Adi. I live in Gaza. The situation here is catastrophic for me. I am a father of five children––three daughters (Lama, 18, Jana, 12, and Suwar, 7) and two sons (Adi, 16, and Abdul Qadir, 14). I have a wife (Warda), and I'm 39 years old. Of course, we need everything. My house was completely destroyed, along with all its contents––bedrooms, kitchenware, clothes, everything. Now, I'm living in a small, difficult rented house, and I'm trying to find someone to help me so that my children and I can continue living.

Chuffed

@FallsMom @lisamelton (I saw it because of an algorithm: the trending tab)

I can understand if people are overwhelmed by posts in their timeline because they're following people that post a lot. They may want to continue following them but get fewer things, and there could be room for a "less of this"/"more of this" personal curator thingy. The key is letting it be completely controlled by the user, and transparent. It might still not be a good idea, but worth exploring.

@ahltorp @FallsMom @lisamelton Why not just stop following overly prolific people?

@JankaWessman @FallsMom @lisamelton Because you like what they write? Or you like some of it? Or specifically don’t like or don’t care about some of it? Or it might not be one prolific person, but the combined effect of many.

A lot of people here use filters and other selective mutes. Can’t we help people do that, or do we as a collective think that’s only for ”advanced users”?

Maybe there is no good way of doing this, but other than the effort, what is lost by trying?

@FallsMom @lisamelton i saw this post on trending tab. So it's technically an algorithm? 
@lisamelton nnooooooooooo!..that's what's enjoyable here..no algo..much more fun....☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺
@lisamelton I still lament what we lost when the web mostly gave up on the idea of directories (like dmoz) and just went with search engines. Don't google my social.

@lisamelton Oh boy, an algorithm just like my big boy social medias

Tell me, techbro, how well that’s working out

For everyone

@lisamelton Absolutely no algorithms. No no no! I'm way more opposed to having my feed dictated to me based on unknown, uncontrolled and possibly undesirable factors than I am anything about AI.
@lisamelton I’m new here and still kinda figuring out the whole making connections thing, but yeah this is absolutely the vibe and why I’m here

@shivvr @lisamelton

Welcome. In case it helps: You can subscribe to hash tags. This is how I've found interesting individuals. It gives some of the serendipity of The Algorithm without the agenda, since you'll see people you didn't originally know about.

After a while, maybe you unsubscribe from the hash tag. I haven't found the need, but the option is there. For example, you might want to rotate what you're listening to as you settle in, every few days or weeks, maybe to try one or a few hash tags at a time.

@kentpitman @lisamelton thanks! That is a helpful suggestion I hadn’t realized that

@shivvr @lisamelton

Greetings, I am rather new here too. I'm here to join the welcome party. I hope to cross paths in the future. Have a great day.

@lisamelton No algorithm has ever been able to precisely target all of my anxieties as well as I have managed to do here… uh, oops. At least nobody is profiting off of them!

@lisamelton

"jackhole techbro"

okay i'm stealing that

@benroyce You have my blessing. 😊
@lisamelton How is the comment section going for that guy?
@berniethewordsmith He's getting pummeled the last time I checked.
@lisamelton @berniethewordsmith This was the fellow upset because AI journos weren’t being boosted here? Lol, yeah, we’re a tough crowd.
@lisamelton Why some want/need an algorithm (I am not one of them)-
@DukeDuke @lisamelton you can also create liste to classify your feed. Very useful.

@lisamelton The Trending tab does this for me -- I have my curated feed, and periodically I click on Trending, which leads me to NEW PEOPLE who I can follow. And also breaking news.

There IS an algorithm. You just get to CHOOSE whether to use it.

@nosrednayduj Yes. It's not the default. And, most importantly, the Trending tab is not tailored to what you've posted. You're anonymous as far as it's concerned.
@nosrednayduj On my instance, the trending tab is always empty, which maybe is just true. It's an instance for mathematicians, maybe just nothing ever trends. @lisamelton
@lisamelton fuck yeah, be ur own algorithm
@lisamelton Nah, I'd love it if people that post only when I'm asleep, or people that only post occasionally get bubbled up so that I can read their stuff and not have it buried by folks that post several times a day, every day. "Algorithm" isn't an inherently naughty word.

@haliphax @lisamelton

Agreed, at the end of the day even the ordered by time list of posts we have now is an "algorithm"

@haliphax @lisamelton @karlhigley
You can already have this with Lists. A list for sleep posters, a list for low volume posters. Clients can implement features to automatically create these kinds of lists for you without any change to how Mastodon servers work. Maybe it already exists 🤔
@haliphax @lisamelton @karlhigley I think to most people "the algorithm" means something that digs up the most popular posts across a specific social media and jams it into your feed. So you "are part of the global conversation". It sucks and selects for lowest common denominators (which is often US centric). Additionally, it typically optimises for engagement rather than enjoyment.