Mastodawn

Well sh*t. On the Fediverse, have you ever thought someone was annoying for being too lazy to scroll up a thread to read the context?

Welp, it turns or not all clients show all posts, but to make matters worse it may not be a bug. 🤔

As an example, my go-to mobile client Tusky appears to split threads when you change the audience. I could have swore it didn't do that, but at least one conversation I've been a part of only showed the "Follower-Only" posts, orphaning itself from the public thread.

😳... I'm embarrassed to have only now realized this. No doubt I've unnecessarily asked folks for details they assumed were a scroll up away. 🤦

#Mastodon #Tusky #ActivityPub

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🫧 socialcoding..9h ago

@pawv deletions break threads too, and you are left with the broken pieces. The top end with the context, and the wriggling tail of the aftermath 😅

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ARGVMI~1.PIF 8h ago

@smallcircles

That's the problem with hard deletion: it breaks the reply chain. You can see what post a reply is to, but you can't see what post *that* is a reply to because it doesn't exist any more!

Still, allowing people to fully withdraw from a conversation, leaving not even a placeholder, is probably a good thing overall for privacy and such.

@pawv

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🫧 socialcoding..

@argv_minus_one @pawv

Yea. The Tombstone object is available in #ActivityStreams but I think it is very tricky indeed to have a proper #prosocial wire implementation.

Suppose someone crosses the line in their conversation, receives harsh criticism, and decides to remove their post, now the wriggling tail of critique and judgment becomes detached from the popular originator toot in the thread. Unattached, floating freely in #social fabric, often without the context on why criticism was deserved. A harrasser comes off easy, one can say. They also have more chance to 'clean their slate', by showing better #behavior and re-earn lost respect if their comms violation wasn't too egregious.

A tombstone inserted in the deletion space, even when totally anonymised, still has mentions of the person in the following replies, which for a full-blown "right to be removed" would involve removing those too. Or else a respondent can make sure that the bad Monday someone had, remains carved in stone.